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greetings and salutations friends we are

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once again back and exploring our new

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series enduring mysteries tonight is one

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of my favorites

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i first heard about this uh sometime in

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the 90s

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and got john keele's book the mothman

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prophecies john keel is the original

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uh sort of

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civilian i suppose investigator

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who went down to point pleasant after

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reading some of these reports in the

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local newspaper

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of a mysterious

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winged creature that was being observed

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and cited and people were making reports

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to local authorities

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it became a national story at the time

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so some would argue

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that the

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mothman has been with us forever i've

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heard other researchers

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uh sort of linking the mystery of the

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mothman with mythological

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birdman creatures and we see

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historical

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evidence of

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bird men uh i guess the only way you

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could describe them is bird men

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throughout history

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most notably of course in ancient egypt

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where there are many paintings of some

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of the egyptian gods which had the body

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of a man and the head of a bird

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and there are also other examples in

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other forms of mythology of mysterious

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bird men

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winged creatures

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that were somewhat like a man and

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somewhat like a bird

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usually depicted with wings

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and i also always found it interesting

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that the many of the depictions of the

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mythological bird men were always sort

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of warriors with weapons

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but for our purposes tonight we're going

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to be focusing on where

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it began in more modern times the the

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legend of the mysterious mothman and

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i mentioned that john keel was the

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original investigator covering the case

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uh he did so along with local newspaper

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reporters who are already covering some

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of the sightings help

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now legend has it that the mothman which

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originated really in point pleasant the

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original sightings in 1966 legend has

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that the mothman

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lives in a mysterious area near point

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pleasant called the tnt area

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uh a strange and mysterious place

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the tnt area i'm going to share my

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is the site of former weapons

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manufacturing facilities that were in

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use during world war ii

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if you take a look at the tnt area in

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point pleasant

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west virginia uh

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it this looks like a place a monster

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lives that's that's what i'm gonna say

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so there are some mysterious underground

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facilities uh that people have located

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in this area

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and again these are former munitions

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manufacturers that were in use during

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world war ii now by 1966 most of them

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were shut down the area was cordoned off

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because there may still be dangerous or

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hazardous materials even explosives

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but it became uh this area became

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something of a lover's lane

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teenagers would drive there hang out

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there drink there

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and some of the mothman sightings were

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in and around this mysterious tnt area

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as it's called we could see some

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facilities

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bunkers of sorts so

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uh yes a very mysterious place that

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some attributed

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some decided after the mothman was seen

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a multitude of times in this area that

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this is indeed where the mothman lived

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he lived inside these tunnels that are

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interestingly many of these things are

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still there if you drive down to point

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pleasant west virginia you can just walk

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around this place it's not very well

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secured anymore uh which is an

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interesting uh field trip if if you're

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so inclined i encourage you to go down

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to point pleasant west virginia

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and also make sure that you visit this

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place where many of the sightings were

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it's interesting we can uh we can trace

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the very first

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sighting of the mothman to the year 1966

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and this is where the story gets creepy

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because apparently the first two people

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that actually saw the mothman and

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reported seeing it were two gravediggers

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in uh clendenin west virginia which is

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these two gravediggers were

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cemetery this was their job

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and they saw a black shadowy strange

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figure fly over their heads while they

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were digging a grave in the cemetery

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they worked in

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so yes the first two people who actually

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saw the mysterious mothman were digging

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a grave in a graveyard at the time

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uh graveyards are creepy enough but uh

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add a flying winged man with glowing red

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eyes it's almost too much

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the sightings

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would later

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come to point pleasant

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west virginia

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people were reporting seeing it in and

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around the tnt area and other areas

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surrounding point pleasant west virginia

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of the

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sightings ramped up after the first few

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media reports so it may be that

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the media played a role in the wave of

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we have

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a lot of the original reports in fact i

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was able to locate uh i was able to

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locate one of the original

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uh one of the original newspaper

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articles

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that was from 1966

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it's titled couples see man size bird

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creature something and we're going to

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this is an interesting uh

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an interesting article from the time and

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will give us some historical perspective

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this is a transformative work uh we're

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gonna cite fair use here citing this

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article as we educate the public and

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um the contents of the article so it's

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titled couple c man-sized bird creature

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something

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the following is point pleasant register

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article from wednesday november 16 1966

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titled couple c man-sized bird creature

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something

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the article states two point pleasant

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couples said today they encountered a

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man-sized bird-like creature in the tnt

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area about midnight last night

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sheriff's deputies and city police went

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to the scene about two o'clock this

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morning but were unable to spot anything

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but the two young men telling their

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story this morning were dead serious and

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asserted they hadn't been drinking steve

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millett of 3305 jackson avenue and roger

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scarberry of 809 30th street described

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the thing as being about six or seven

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feet tall having a wingspan of ten feet

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and red eyes about two inches in

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diameter and six inches apart

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one witness described it saying it was a

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man with wings millet said it wasn't

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like anything you'd seen on tv or in a

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monster movie

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the men and their wives were in

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scarberry's car between 11 30 p.m and

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midnight when they spotted the creature

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near the old power plant adjacent to the

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old national guard armory buildings and

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again those national guard armory

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buildings were in that tea and so-called

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tnt area

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this is very

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close to other

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later reported sightings

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the creature was seen standing on three

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occasions and was described as being

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extremely fast it flew about 100 miles

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an hour in flight but it was a clumsy

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runner

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deputy millard halstead said he had seen

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dust in the vicinity of a coal field but

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it could have been caused by the bird he

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i was for getting out of there

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the article goes on to state they did

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just that but the thing followed them

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they said it was hovering over the car

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apparently gliding until they reached

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the national guard armory on route 62.

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we went downtown turned around and went

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back and there it was again millet said

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it seemed to be waiting on us

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he said the light gray creature then

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scurried through a field it had flown

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across the top of the car

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it is apparently inflated afraid of

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light millet reasoned

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and maybe

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it thought it was scaring us off the

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young man

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uh the young men said they saw the

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creature's eyes which glowed red and

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this is an important point because

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the

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eyes

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light shined on it and it seemed to want

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to get away from the lights they said it

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looked like a man with wings

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but that the head was not an outstanding

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characteristics both were slightly pale

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and tired from lack of sleep during the

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night following their harrowing

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experience they speculated that the

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thing was living in the vacant power

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plant possibly in one of the huge

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boilers

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there are pigeons in all the other

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buildings millet said but not in that

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interesting uh the article goes on the

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witness goes on to state if i hadn't

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seen it well by myself i wouldn't have

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said anything scarbory commented but

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there were four of us who saw it

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they said it didn't resemble a bat in

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any way but maybe

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you would visualize as an angel

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the last time they saw it it was at the

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gate of the cece lewis farm on route 62.

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they heard a sound of wings flapping and

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they said

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uh the bird rose straight up like a

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helicopter this doesn't have an

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explanation to it said it was an animal

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when asked if they were going back to

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look for the creature yes millet said

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this afternoon and again tonight today

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scarberry said but tonight i don't know

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and here we see

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the original actual newspaper article

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and by the way it's interesting that uh

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you know there are collectors of

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memorabilia of of cryptic creatures and

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monsters and bigfoot sightings and you

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in doing my research i noticed that you

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could buy

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framed copies of this original

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uh newspaper article the first newspaper

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article about the legendary mysterious

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mothman

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i find that interesting and i may get

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that and hang it on my wall here uh just

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as a you know a nod to the history of

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these strange phenomenon

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interesting to note that if you do

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happen to ever go to point pleasant west

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virginia what you find is a sleepy small

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town

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uh that's

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in all ways that i could see

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unremarkable

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in other words nothing really stands out

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it seems to be a sleepy small town

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there's a local diner a local general

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store it's almost a land that time

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forgot

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uh but point pleasant because of the

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mothman has become a lot like roswell

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in that

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uh there is a mothman museum there uh

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i visited and there is a mothman diner

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which is interesting a whole diner

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that's themed with mothman and you can

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go and and get a bite to eat and also

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buy some mothman collectibles like

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t-shirts hats pins

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uh all kinds of things

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um and of course they sell some of the

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mothman books in that diner and again in

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the

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and it's very interesting that um

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later

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john keel and others

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the original investigator would

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speculate that the sightings

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of the mothman in the point pleasant

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area had something to do with the

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impending bridge tragedy that would

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happen

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um and

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interestingly enough

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it has been said by many people that

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sightings of the mothman are a harbinger

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of tragedy to come

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and this has of course led to

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speculation that these are some sort of

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uh warning angel warning

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or interdimensional being warning of

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impending

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death and catastrophic doom there have

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been mothman sightings apparently at the

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fukushima plant before that happened

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um

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and also in russia

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uh and many other tragic events 911

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people claim there was mothman sightings

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right before 9 11.

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an interesting side note to the mothman

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phenomenon is that

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when there becomes a hot spot of mothman

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sightings shortly thereafter there

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generally

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tends to be a

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big tragedy happen

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in the case of point pleasant it was a

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bridge collapse

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now the

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the bridge collapse would later be shown

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to be

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not

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attributable to supernatural means of

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course but but structural error

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um

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but nonetheless

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john keel believed that people connected

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the mothman sightings to

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the silver bridge tragedy because they

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were trying to make sense of a senseless

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event

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um and and more on john keel because i

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think it's important that we recognize

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john keele's role in popular a lot

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popular

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of the mysterious mothman

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john keel was an interesting figure

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in today's terms he might be considered

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a conspiracy land character because he

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covered strange and unusual topics

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much like a nick redfern of today or or

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someone like uh mcmars

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but he was from another era and

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certainly an interesting guy

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besides writing the original mothman

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book he also was an independent writer

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who wrote for many

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different magazines like weird tales and

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men's adventure magazine and more

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so just a note on john

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keel the original uh

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really the person that popularized the

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mothman kill was born in hornell new

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york the son of a small-time bandleader

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his parents separated he was raised by

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his grandparents

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we'll move on to his career

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it's interesting after he left the

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military he worked at a foreign radio

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correspondent in paris berlin rome and

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egypt in 1957 he published jaudu a book

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describing his time in egypt in india

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investigating the indian rogue trick

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the indian road trick is one of those

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things you ever see this it's it's where

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uh us an indian sorcerer will throw a

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rope up in the air and then a little boy

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will climb all the way up the rope

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and some people didn't believe that that

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trick was real that it was just a myth

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john keel investigated that and given my

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history in the world of stage magic i

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have that book

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and and that of course is an interesting

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read he also uh covered the legendary

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yeti

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in 1966 he produced the spy in the

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superhero spoof novel and the fickle

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finger

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of fate influenced writers such as

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charles fourth he began contributing

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articles to here's where we tie into all

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the strange stuff the flying saucer

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review

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and he took up investigating ufos with

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assorted fortania as a full-time pursuit

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so john keel became a full-time ufo

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investigator in the year 1966.

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keel analyzed what he calls windows and

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waves or flaps as they are often called

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or reported ufo events concluding that a

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disproportionate number occurred on

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wednesdays and saturdays

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i never knew that apparently more ufo

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flaps occur on wednesdays and saturdays

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than any other day of the week

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kia was a member of the screenwriter's

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guild and keel reportedly wrote scripts

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for get smart the monkeys uh mac

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and meyer for hire and lost in space

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here's something that i found extremely

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interesting and that i never know i

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never knew but in 1967

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keel popularized the term men in black

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in an article from men's adventure

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magazine saga entitled ufo agents of

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terror and in that article by the way he

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basically tells the story of the men in

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black the men in black from the

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government some shadowy government

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organization that comes to shut people

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up once they've seen a ufo

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it's interesting that he rejected the

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extraterrestrial hype

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hypothesis

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um this wikipedia article says that like

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contemporary 1960 researchers such as

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jay allen heineck and jack soleil kiel

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was initially hopeful he could somehow

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validate the prevailing extraterrestrial

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visitation hypothesis however after a

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year of investigations kiel concluded

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that extra terrestrial hypothesis was

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untenable

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indeed both heineken and valet

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eventually arrived at a similar

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conclusion as keel himself wrote

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abandoned the extraterrestrial

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hypothesis in 1967 when my own field

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investigations disclosed an astonishing

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overlap between psychic phenomenon and

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ufos the objects and apparitions do not

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necessarily originate on another planet

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and may not even exist

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as permanent constructions of matter

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it is more likely that what we see

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it is more likely that we see what we

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want to see and interpret such visions

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according to our own contemporary

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beliefs and this leads into the extra

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dimensional

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uh consciousness aspects of the world of

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ufos many people believe that ufos are

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not

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physical objects but rather

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manifestations of our own consciousness

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or interpretation of

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some form of energy and not

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uh really physical structures

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in ufo's operation trojan horse keel

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argues that the non-human or spiritual

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intelligence source has staged whole

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events over a long period of time in

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order to propagate and reinforce certain

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erroneous belief systems for example

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monsters ghosts and demons the very

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faith in middle europe vampire legends

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mystery airships in 1897 mystery

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aeroplanes of the 1930s mystery

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helicopters anomalous creature sightings

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poltergeist phenomena balls of light and

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ufos

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uh kill conjecture that ultimately all

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these anomalies are a cover for the real

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phenomenon he used the term and where we

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heard this before friends apparently he

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coined this term as well ultra

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terrestrials to describe ufo occupants

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he believed to be

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non-human entities capable of taking on

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whatever form they want

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in our haunted planet kiel discussed the

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seldom considered possibility that the

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alien visitors to earth are not visitors

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at all but an advanced earth

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civilization so we've heard some of

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these things before but to me it was

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very interesting to see that john keel

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has been the genesis of many of this ufo

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mythology that we have today that is

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just accepted as as very good

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possibilities

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um

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so not visitors at all but an advanced

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earth civilization which may or may not

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be human interdimensional life is also

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considered and in 1975 of course he put

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out his book the mothman privacies the

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prophecies it was kills accounts of his

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investigation into alleged sightings in

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and around point pleasant west virginia

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of a huge winged creature called mothman

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the book combines kiehl's account of

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receiving strange phone calls with

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reports of mutilated pets and culminates

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with the december 15 1970 67 collapse of

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the silver bridge across the ohio river

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the book was widely popularized as the

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basis of a 2002 film of the same name

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starring richard gere will patton laura

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linney and alan bates and just a note if

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you've never seen that mothman

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prophecies movie it's worth it it's a

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good

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they veer off from from actual history

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quite a bit

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and the the main character richard gere

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plays is a combination of of keel and

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another person

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oh they mentioned that here gear and

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bates played two parts of kiehl's

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personality bates character was leak

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which was key all spelled backwards and

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gear's character worked for a newspaper

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john klein also play on john keele's

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it's interesting to note uh that in may

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june 2002 issue of skeptical inquirer

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journalist john sherwood a former

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business associate of ufo researcher

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uh gray barker published an analysis of

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private letters between keo and barker

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during the period of kill's

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investigation

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in the article gray barker's book of

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bunk sherwood reported finding

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significant differences between what

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kiel wrote at the time of his

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investigation and what he wrote in his

573
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:37,440
first book about the mothman reports

574
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raising questions about the book's

575
00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:40,640
accuracy

576
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,799
sherwood also reported that keel who is

577
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well known for writing humorous and

578
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:45,919
outrageous letters to friends and

579
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associates would not assist him in

580
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clarifying the differences

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so uh

582
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:55,120
controversial figure he was of course

583
00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:57,440
and it's interesting to see that some of

584
00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:59,840
his letters between him and a colleague

585
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,400
differ very much from what was put in

586
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his eventual book

587
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:05,360
um

588
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:08,080
and keel uh lived of course on the upper

589
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:09,679
west side of new york city it was a

590
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:12,080
lifelong bachelor and he died july 3rd

591
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:15,679
2009 in new york city at the age of 79.

592
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,520
so there we get some insight into the

593
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:19,440
original investigator and really the

594
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:23,440
person who popularized the myth of

595
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:25,360
the the mothman

596
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:27,360
one second as i find additional source

597
00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:35,029
so after uh 1966

598
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:38,480
there was a a wave of sightings and

599
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:40,399
and according to most of the reports

600
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:43,520
mothman is a black 10 foot tall creature

601
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:46,080
with wings and red eyes i'm going to

602
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share my screen with some images that we

603
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:49,919
found

604
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during the course of our

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one second friends

606
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okay i've got some uh

607
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:14,640
got some images here

608
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:16,960
and so we can get some visuals here as

609
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to what it is that people are saying

610
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:22,399
this of course is uh our thumbnail uh

611
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for tonight thanks very much spooky

612
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a mysterious mothman creature uh for our

613
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:30,399
series enduring mysteries you're

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watching truth seekers and our series

615
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enduring mysteries the mysterious

616
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:36,320
mothman

617
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,960
so uh let's get to the creature

618
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in most of the reports from west

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00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:44,880
virginia and even more modern reports

620
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,159
described it describe it as a man-like

621
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:50,399
creature with arms and legs

622
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:51,679
and also

623
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:54,960
wings and most people say it's a 10-foot

624
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:57,200
or 12-foot wingspan

625
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:58,799
which is interesting

626
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,159
um

627
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:02,480
i'm not aware of birds with wingspans

628
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:05,120
that big there are some but not in that

629
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,240
area

630
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:08,720
so people described mothman as a black

631
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:11,039
10-foot tall creature with wings and red

632
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:12,480
eyes

633
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:14,480
and shortly after the cemetery incident

634
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:16,480
with the grave robbers that i mentors

635
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:17,919
robbers excuse me

636
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,159
not definitely not grave robbers

637
00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:22,799
slip of the tongue the grave diggers who

638
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:25,279
originally were the first witnesses to

639
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:27,919
mothman sighting shortly after that

640
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:29,919
residents of point pleasant uh west

641
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:32,960
virginia a few miles west of clint

642
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,279
clendenin claimed they saw the monster

643
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:37,120
while driving at night and we heard the

644
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:39,440
article from the newspaper at the time

645
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:41,360
they reported that the monster was also

646
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,799
commonly seen in that tnt area near town

647
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,559
and some of the locals speculated that

648
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:48,720
perhaps people were really seeing cranes

649
00:29:53,669 --> 00:29:51,120
or owls and others would wonder if the

650
00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:53,679
creature was created in some sort of

651
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:56,000
mutation accident involving the

652
00:30:03,269 --> 00:29:59,679
chemicals associated with storing tnt

653
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:03,279
um interesting and we can get into the

654
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:05,440
we can get into

655
00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:07,760
there are some theories about what

656
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:09,679
mothman actually is

657
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:10,960
now we mentioned that some people

658
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:13,679
believe that the mothman is uh

659
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:15,919
a misidentified animal

660
00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:18,880
um i find this to be a little bit of a

661
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:21,840
stretch because i've seen

662
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:23,760
i've seen an owl at night but one thing

663
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:25,600
i will say is if you shine a flashlight

664
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:27,679
at some birds or animals in the forest

665
00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:30,000
you're going to see glowing red eyes

666
00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:32,080
so that's interesting but for someone to

667
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:36,159
mistake a common bar now or any owl for

668
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:39,279
a man-like creature with legs and arms

669
00:30:45,029 --> 00:30:42,080
and wings it's a little too much

670
00:30:47,909 --> 00:30:45,039
interestingly some people depict

671
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:47,919
mothman as more reptile-like

672
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:48,880
or

673
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:51,840
demonic i would even say others depict

674
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:54,480
him as more uh bird-like with feathers

675
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:56,159
and wings and

676
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,919
here we see a more

677
00:31:01,669 --> 00:31:00,240
i suppose demonic or lizard-like

678
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,679
explanation

679
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,080
and some of course depict him looking a

680
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:07,039
lot more bird-like than man-like so the

681
00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:07,919
the

682
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:12,799
that i've been able to find in source

683
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:13,919
they

684
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:16,159
say it's a 10-foot tall man-like

685
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:19,200
creature with wings on his back

686
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:20,880
and here we see point pleasant west

687
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:23,679
virginia where they have a mothman

688
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:26,000
celebration every year

689
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,320
interesting to note that uh point

690
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:30,320
pleasant west virginia became a lot like

691
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:33,200
roswell uh you know how roswell sort of

692
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:35,519
cashed in and said hey

693
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,399
um a lot of people want to come here and

694
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:40,640
hear about roswell in the roswell crash

695
00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:43,039
so let's have a museum let's have some

696
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:45,279
diners or you know themed

697
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:46,399
restaurants

698
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:48,720
about aliens in roswell point pleasant

699
00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:52,080
is exactly like that it's a sleepy small

700
00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:54,159
town uh who

701
00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:56,640
they don't got much going on

702
00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:58,799
so every year though they host the point

703
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:00,960
pleasant mothman festival

704
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:03,679
and here we see a depiction this is an

705
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:05,600
interesting statue

706
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:08,000
uh that was erected right in the town

707
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,039
square

708
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:11,120
and i have the uh

709
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:14,240
the inscription is interesting from that

710
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:17,200
statue it says legend of the mothman on

711
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:20,559
a chilly fall night in november 1966 two

712
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:22,960
young couples drove into the tnt area

713
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:25,919
north of point pleasant west virginia

714
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,320
when they realized they were not alone

715
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:30,320
what they saw that night has evolved

716
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:32,480
into one of the great mysteries of all

717
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:35,760
time hence the mothman legacy began

718
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:38,080
it has grown into a phenomenon known all

719
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,480
over the world by millions

720
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,880
of curious people asking questions what

721
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:45,120
really happened what did these people

722
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:48,399
see hasn't been seen since it still

723
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:51,200
sparks the world's curiosity the mystery

724
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:53,039
behind point pleasant west virginia's

725
00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:55,279
mothman and this sculpture is by artist

726
00:32:59,430 --> 00:32:57,840
and sculptor bob roach of new haven west

727
00:33:01,990 --> 00:32:59,440
virginia

728
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:02,000
here we can see another sort of shadowy

729
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:05,360
scary depiction here of the mothman and

730
00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:07,600
a better look at that it's amazing

731
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:09,519
actually uh sculpture right in the

732
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:12,240
middle of of town square basically point

733
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,840
pleasant downtown point pleasant west

734
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:15,200
virginia

735
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:16,159
um

736
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:18,240
and here we see

737
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:22,000
a an owl and many people believe that

738
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,399
what these people were seeing was just a

739
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:25,919
big owl

740
00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:28,399
i find that to be a stretch and also

741
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:30,159
other people have theorized that it may

742
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:36,630
which is a large bird with a 10-foot

743
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,600
wingspan now these are possibilities but

744
00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:41,279
i find them to be a little bit of a

745
00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:42,559
stretch

746
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:47,190
one second we'll move on to some other

747
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:49,200
materials that i have here to share with

748
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:51,279
you

749
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,950
i'm going to put up my fair use banner

750
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:58,559
because uh

751
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:00,480
so throughout this

752
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:02,720
most of these sightings

753
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:04,960
uh that i've read the sightings reports

754
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:08,720
of it's 1966 1967 point pleasant west

755
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:09,839
virginia

756
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:12,560
and they sort of reach a

757
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,560
a favorite point

758
00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:16,639
there there becomes more and more

759
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:19,119
sightings as the media reports in the

760
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:21,839
newspaper articles sort of i believe

761
00:34:26,069 --> 00:34:24,480
fanned the flames of people

762
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:26,079
and uh

763
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:29,359
it really became a phenomenon in point

764
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:32,720
pleasant west virginia in 1966 1967

765
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:36,000
people were scared to go out at night

766
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:37,520
parents would tell their children be

767
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:39,359
careful the mothman will get you if you

768
00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:41,119
stay out too late

769
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:44,480
it really did become sort of a

770
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:47,599
a big thing in the town for people to go

771
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:49,040
looking people would get in their cars

772
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,280
and go to that tnt area with flashlights

773
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,760
and go looking for the mothman

774
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:55,040
so

775
00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:56,000
um

776
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,320
i believe that the media heightened

777
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,560
people's awareness and more people began

778
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,280
looking for the mothman and

779
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:05,760
it's not surprising that many more

780
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:07,119
people began

781
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:11,200
to see or have a sighting of the mothman

782
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:12,160
but

783
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,280
after the

784
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:15,200
collapse of the bridge

785
00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:18,560
these sightings uh sort of were gone

786
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,280
it's as if mothman disappeared

787
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:23,040
and many people

788
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,520
at the time commented that mothman had

789
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:27,839
flown away or

790
00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:30,400
that mothman was specifically there at

791
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:33,119
that time and that place to warn them of

792
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:39,910
to warn them of the impending doom of

793
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:41,440
the bridge

794
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:46,240
people thought mothman's mission in

795
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:48,160
in this sleepy small town in west

796
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:50,480
virginia had concluded and he had moved

797
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:51,839
on to

798
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:54,240
other places because the sightings

799
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:56,960
virtually stopped for many years

800
00:36:01,589 --> 00:35:59,359
but there have been sporadic sightings

801
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:01,599
of mothman in that area

802
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:04,240
every so often up until modern times and

803
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:06,000
right now in modern times there are

804
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:09,599
still mockman sightings in that area

805
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:10,560
um

806
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:13,760
i'm gonna put my fair use banner up here

807
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,000
we have uh we have a local news report

808
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:20,240
of a mothman sighting to share and the

809
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:22,160
pictures from that are extremely

810
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,320
interesting so we want to make sure that

811
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,720
we share that with our audience here

812
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:28,320
i want to remind everybody that we're

813
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:29,760
going to be sharing a video but this is

814
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:31,440
a transformative work we're educating

815
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,880
the public we'll be critiquing and

816
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:34,880
discussing the video we're sharing and

817
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:37,440
this of course is covered under fair use

818
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:39,599
and allowable by law

819
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:41,920
so let me see here if we can't share

820
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,800
this local news report

821
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:47,040
by the way i like sharing local news

822
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,280
reports because generally they're okay

823
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:51,200
with fair use

824
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:52,880
and i want to thank them in advance for

825
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:55,520
that you know uh sometimes you need to

826
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:58,480
share material and this local news story

827
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:00,560
really gives us uh

828
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:03,520
a perspective into the more recent

829
00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:06,320
sightings i was surprised to find that

830
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:07,599
there have been

831
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:10,000
especially the past few years a bunch of

832
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:12,400
new sightings of mothman and and there

833
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:14,560
are good credible people that are seeing

834
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:17,119
these things they're not whack jobs

835
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:18,480
um

836
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,990
let me try that one more time

837
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,510
yeah almost did

838
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:37,510
okay and this is a local news reporters

839
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:39,119
in mason county may need to be on the

840
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:41,280
lookout for something other than deer

841
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:42,880
when they hit the woods this week

842
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,480
eyewitness news reporter falling pearson

843
00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:46,720
shows us what else may be lurking out

844
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,480
there too

845
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:50,800
up until sunday night he hadn't been

846
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:53,119
spotted recently but according to these

847
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:55,359
pictures the legendary point pleasant

848
00:38:01,670 --> 00:37:59,119
mothman is back these pictures suppose

849
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:01,680
now here is this picture which is

850
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:02,880
incredible

851
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:04,480
picture because

852
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:06,400
if

853
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:09,040
we see legs we definitely see legs we

854
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:10,880
definitely see a head of some sort and

855
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:14,079
we definitely see wings

856
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:15,920
but there's a counter theory to these

857
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:17,599
pictures and we'll talk about that after

858
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,079
this news report

859
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:22,560
supposedly taken by a man who says he

860
00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:24,800
was driving along state highway 2 in

861
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,119
point pleasant saw something jump from

862
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:29,599
tree to tree so he pulled off the road

863
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:31,760
to take these pictures the man declined

864
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,480
an on camera interview but is adamant

865
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:36,960
the pictures are real and some locals

866
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:39,440
like carolyn harris believe it

867
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:41,040
it's interesting to note that the person

868
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:43,200
that distributed these photographs

869
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:44,960
remained anonymous and to this day

870
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:47,680
remains anonymous so that gives me some

871
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:50,560
pause as to uh

872
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:52,160
you know the authenticity of the

873
00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:53,839
pictures if i can't interview the guy

874
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:56,079
who took the pictures and get a sense of

875
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:57,440
his uh

876
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,640
you know his integrity his truthfulness

877
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,079
it gives me a little bit of caution

878
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:04,320
about the pictures

879
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:06,079
i definitely know that the mothman's

880
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:08,480
real harris has owned the mothman diner

881
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:11,040
for 48 years she also helped start the

882
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:13,359
mothman festival harris said there's

883
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:15,920
been too many sightings of the mothman

884
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,560
for her not to believe first responders

885
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,640
in the church department and stuff

886
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:22,400
that i talked to that

887
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:23,760
they definitely made a believer out of

888
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,320
me harris has met many mothman believers

889
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:28,480
over the years like the smiths you have

890
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,280
eyewitnesses so you know

891
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:33,520
yeah it does have potential and and i do

892
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:35,520
sort of want to believe we asked the

893
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:37,680
local mothman expert and owner of the

894
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:40,400
mothman museum jeff wamsley just how

895
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:42,640
authentic the pictures are wamsley said

896
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:45,119
with modern technology it's almost

897
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:47,760
impossible to know for sure if the picks

898
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:50,240
are real but even if they are fakes the

899
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:52,800
benefits of the mothman's legend to the

900
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:55,359
town of point pleasant are very real

901
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:57,040
it's a good thing a lot of people brings

902
00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:58,880
a lot of people to the area it's here to

903
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,400
stay at ain't leaving

904
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:02,160
yeah it's interesting the locals love

905
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:04,720
mothman there uh if you go down there

906
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:06,720
you'll see they're excited about mothman

907
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,200
they love mothman because this woman has

908
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:11,280
this little tiny diner

909
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:13,599
um in the middle of the town

910
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:16,720
and uh most of her business i would say

911
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:19,119
well i know in fairness i'd say 50

912
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:22,160
percent of her business was tourists who

913
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:23,520
come in

914
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:25,520
look at the mothman statue go to that

915
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:27,760
mothman museum and they have lunch or

916
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:30,160
dinner or breakfast here in her facility

917
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:32,319
so she's got twice the business that she

918
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:34,880
would have from the locals uh from from

919
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:36,960
the mugman

920
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,599
fallon pearson eyewitness news

921
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:41,280
okay so i'm going to back that up a

922
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:44,240
little bit here so we can keep a picture

923
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:48,800
here of the uh these pictures now

924
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:50,960
at first when i saw these pictures i was

925
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:54,000
convinced this has got to be a flying

926
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:56,000
man right this has got to be some kind

927
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:57,280
of mothman

928
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:59,680
i mean look here we've got legs you

929
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,760
could clearly you could see a head on

930
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:03,599
this thing you could see the wings and

931
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,520
it's flying in the sky as they take the

932
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:06,960
pictures

933
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:09,440
however uh

934
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:10,319
a

935
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:57,280
um

936
00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,720
still i think these pictures are

937
00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:00,240
compelling

938
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:02,400
i'd love to get copies of the original

939
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:03,599
negatives

940
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:06,720
have them blown up and uh or or copies

941
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,400
of the original digital

942
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:10,000
photos we don't know how they were taken

943
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:12,319
whether taken with a film camera digital

944
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:13,760
camera what

945
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:15,440
um

946
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:17,760
i would like to get original copies so

947
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:19,040
that the

948
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:20,800
we could get the very best source

949
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:23,440
material and then

950
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:26,400
look through uh you know maybe enhance

951
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,400
the images and see

952
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:30,880
what it is that we're so i want to see

953
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,400
in more detail

954
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,160
and i'm pretty sure if we had a good

955
00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:36,240
source copied originals

956
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:38,319
we would be able to see a lot more

957
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:39,680
detail

958
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:40,720
uh

959
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:42,960
of these photos because here it's

960
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:45,920
sort of a black gob in the sky yeah it

961
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:48,640
resembles a bird

962
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:50,800
and it looks like legs but are they legs

963
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:51,839
or is it

964
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,200
a dangling snake in the claws of a bird

965
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:57,440
of prey you know there are hawks there

966
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:59,760
are chicken hawks and turkey vultures

967
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:00,560
and

968
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:09,680
so i think the snake explanation

969
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:12,400
definitely holds some validity to me

970
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:14,480
um what do you guys think let me know in

971
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:15,839
the comments let me know in the live

972
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:18,960
chat is this a picture of a real mothman

973
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:21,760
or is this a bird flying with a snake in

974
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:23,839
its claws what do you think

975
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:25,760
i want to take a moment to thank our

976
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:27,760
kind and generous benefactor shadow zone

977
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,079
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978
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979
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:36,400
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980
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:38,319
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981
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:40,000
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982
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:41,680
kindness your generosity and your

983
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:42,720
support

984
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,470
yes so

985
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:50,640
what else do i have for you uh we can

986
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:53,119
talk about the

987
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,950
explanations what is this thing you know

988
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,960
people have theories there are there are

989
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:02,160
some

990
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:05,280
prevailing theories about what mothman

991
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:06,880
actually is

992
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:10,560
we're going to go back to our uh

993
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,240
and and for you know what first before

994
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:14,960
we get into the possibilities here

995
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:16,400
i want to read one of the witness

996
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:18,319
reports i found because i found it very

997
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:20,079
compelling so again we're going to cite

998
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:22,720
fair use i'm sharing my screen here

999
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:24,800
this is an anonymous

1000
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:27,920
uh report many people who report mothman

1001
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:29,680
choose to remain anonymous i guess

1002
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:31,200
they're afraid of getting ridiculed just

1003
00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,319
like ufo witnesses who knows

1004
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:36,319
but this location was in woodstock

1005
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:39,760
illinois and i found an

1006
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:42,960
an inordinate i would say amount of

1007
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,119
um mothman sightings in the midwest

1008
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:48,960
uh but this one came from woodstock

1009
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:50,480
illinois

1010
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:53,760
and it was reported to singular fortion

1011
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,400
by lon strickler

1012
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:58,720
and the witness said

1013
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,319
he said that he thought it may have been

1014
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,480
bigfoot initially but then noticed that

1015
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,720
it had a large set of membrane wings

1016
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,960
attached to the back extending over the

1017
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:08,319
top of his head

1018
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,000
he described the shape of the wings as

1019
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:12,160
that of a gargoyle

1020
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:14,000
the body was eight to nine feet in

1021
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:16,160
height

1022
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,560
and covered in dark fur the arms and

1023
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:20,560
legs were well defined

1024
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,480
and in this sighting

1025
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:24,079
um people believe that they got

1026
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,319
footprints now i went looking and i i

1027
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:28,400
found a few examples of when people

1028
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:29,760
claim

1029
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:31,440
they got

1030
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,599
mothman footprints kind of like the

1031
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:35,440
bigfoot and you know people will cast

1032
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,560
them but to me they they seem like

1033
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:40,480
uh pariola is that what it's called like

1034
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:42,079
when you look at a cloud and you see

1035
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:43,040
something

1036
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,400
in a cloud

1037
00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:46,000
i think some of these the so-called

1038
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:48,960
footprint evidence is very very weak

1039
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:51,040
but uh

1040
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:54,319
on to possible explanations

1041
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:57,200
now uh i i do recall that the history

1042
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:01,599
channel tested the uh

1043
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:03,599
owl hypothesis

1044
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:04,490
and uh

1045
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:05,920
[Music]

1046
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:08,400
i don't really recall but the you know

1047
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:10,240
so the first

1048
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:12,000
explanation that many people come up

1049
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:13,920
with is that these are misidentified

1050
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,839
animals

1051
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:17,920
and again i've shined a flashlight in

1052
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:19,680
the woods at night and saw glowing red

1053
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:22,000
eyes sometimes it was a deer sometimes

1054
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:23,359
it was an owl

1055
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:27,440
um so the glowing red eyes to me is

1056
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:29,599
supportive of the theory that these

1057
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,990
let me stop for a moment to thank lon

1058
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:39,839
strickler for a kind and generous five

1059
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,359
dollar super sticker thank you for your

1060
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:43,359
kindness your generosity and your

1061
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:45,599
support of the show goes a long way to

1062
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:47,760
keeping us producing this content we're

1063
00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:50,000
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1064
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:51,839
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1065
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:53,520
there is a money button down there you

1066
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:55,520
can hit it and throw a couple of bucks

1067
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:56,960
in our hat

1068
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:58,720
and keep us producing

1069
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:01,599
this uh this content and this show thank

1070
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:04,240
you lon strickler continuing supporter

1071
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:05,839
for your kindness your generosity and

1072
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:08,800
your support of the show

1073
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:09,599
so

1074
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:12,400
on to the explanations friends

1075
00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:14,240
theories

1076
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:22,880
so the first theory of course is

1077
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:25,680
misidentified animals

1078
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:27,119
are these

1079
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:30,880
bird-like men

1080
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:33,920
just people seeing an owl now i once had

1081
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:36,480
a huge owl fly right by me

1082
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:39,200
uh in the woods and it was a frightening

1083
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,680
encounter i have to say i was terrified

1084
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,440
because it came out of nowhere it was

1085
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,960
the middle of the night

1086
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:46,640
and all of a sudden there's this big

1087
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,440
winged creature that flew by me

1088
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:52,079
and it sort of flew in front of me then

1089
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:53,040
over me

1090
00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:56,079
and i was terrified but i knew right

1091
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:56,960
away

1092
00:48:01,829 --> 00:47:58,400
it was a bird

1093
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:01,839
a big bird turned out to be an owl

1094
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,280
and it's interesting

1095
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:05,040
how many people have

1096
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:07,040
maybe people can agree with me on this

1097
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:08,640
point how many of you have been in the

1098
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:09,599
woods

1099
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,319
and heard uh whos

1100
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,400
but you never see the owl

1101
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:16,720
so owls tend to be

1102
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:18,800
i almost believe that some people could

1103
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:20,720
see a big owl

1104
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,800
fly near them and mistake it for

1105
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:24,960
something more because it's a rare

1106
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,280
occurrence to even see an owl

1107
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:29,280
i spent a lot of time in the forest i

1108
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:31,760
hear hooing from owls all the time i

1109
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:35,280
rarely see the owl creating that hooing

1110
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:36,960
but i hear the whos

1111
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:39,280
right all the time i hear who's at the

1112
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:42,160
cabin sometimes we put a flashlight up

1113
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:43,520
in the trees trying to find it

1114
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:45,920
especially if it feels like that it's

1115
00:48:49,829 --> 00:48:48,319
close you know that who wings real loud

1116
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,839
one time we were sitting by the campfire

1117
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,079
and it was one of these out would drive

1118
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:54,559
me nuts you know

1119
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:56,079
and we're trying to listen to music and

1120
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:57,839
it's blaring it's who

1121
00:49:01,829 --> 00:48:59,680
so we went looking for it couldn't find

1122
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:01,839
it eventually it stopped when we started

1123
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:03,760
shining flashlights around

1124
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:06,079
um but i think the animal explanation at

1125
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:08,880
least for some of the sightings may be

1126
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:12,000
a valid uh a valid theory because you

1127
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:14,720
don't see an owl very often you hear

1128
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,880
them all the time

1129
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:18,400
i remember even in the city in

1130
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:20,000
philadelphia you would hear

1131
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:22,720
owls and you're in the middle of a city

1132
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:24,400
where the hell is now you never see it

1133
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:26,319
now i've never seen an owl in the city

1134
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:27,680
only in the woods

1135
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,720
um and i i saw one one time in a barn

1136
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:32,880
too as well when i was a kid

1137
00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:36,000
um but in my entire life only twice have

1138
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:36,640
i

1139
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:38,640
been at all close to oh maybe three

1140
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:40,880
times but once was in a zoo where there

1141
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:42,960
was a zoo keeper with an owl teaching us

1142
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:45,280
about owls so only three times in my

1143
00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:47,839
life have i been close to an owl

1144
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:49,359
so maybe

1145
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:53,599
people who uh you know are not

1146
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:56,240
used to seeing owls up close just see

1147
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,240
this huge winged creature flying over

1148
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,400
them with a big wingspan

1149
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:02,319
and they get confused they think it's

1150
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:04,800
something more

1151
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,040
now the animal explanation to me could

1152
00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:08,880
explain some but not all of these

1153
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:10,640
sightings because some of these reports

1154
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:13,040
people are adamant i s this thing walked

1155
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:15,599
on two legs it landed in front of me it

1156
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:18,079
walked on two legs right in front of me

1157
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,599
it had arms and legs like a person

1158
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,000
those reports are are hard to explain

1159
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:26,640
away with cranes

1160
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:28,400
or with

1161
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:31,040
owls even huge owls

1162
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:34,160
um but the other theories uh you know

1163
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,520
really

1164
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:37,280
pick your pic

1165
00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:40,480
pick your uh poison i guess right

1166
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:42,800
pick your preference i should say

1167
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,599
um

1168
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:45,760
people who are into ufos and aliens that

1169
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:46,960
i've talked to

1170
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:49,920
are sure that mothman is an alien they

1171
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:52,319
know it as a fact it's a fact a monk

1172
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:53,760
man's an alien

1173
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,160
he's an alien from another planet where

1174
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:58,800
they have wings and they descended i had

1175
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:00,319
somebody tell me this i'm just repeating

1176
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:03,280
what i've heard i don't know

1177
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,079
so a a friend or you know maybe

1178
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,160
colleague of mine who runs a podcast on

1179
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:10,559
aliens and ufos he's convinced

1180
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:13,359
that mothman is indeed an alien from a

1181
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:15,680
planet where

1182
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:16,960
instead of

1183
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:19,119
the intelligent species ruling the

1184
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,880
planet evolving from

1185
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:22,480
uh apes

1186
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:26,160
on the mothman planet the the prevailing

1187
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,160
intelligence species evolved from birds

1188
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:32,400
okay uh that's one of the theories that

1189
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:34,400
it's an alien

1190
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:36,480
we talked about misidentified animals

1191
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:39,040
and again um some people claim that the

1192
00:51:46,430 --> 00:51:42,240
mothman is confused with a barred owl

1193
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:46,440
i had to look this up a shite poke

1194
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:49,200
s-h-i-t-e-p-o-k-e which is a heron a big

1195
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:50,800
bird

1196
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:53,200
people uh think that maybe people are

1197
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,000
confusing a bard owl a shite poke which

1198
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:58,319
is a heron a big bird you can look it up

1199
00:52:01,510 --> 00:52:00,319
or a sandhill crane which we showed

1200
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:01,520
earlier

1201
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:02,720
i am

1202
00:52:08,069 --> 00:52:06,160
less than convinced that this could be

1203
00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:08,079
at least all the reports you can't

1204
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:09,680
explain away all these reports people

1205
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:12,880
are adamant i saw legs i saw arms this

1206
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,359
was not a bird it was eight feet tall

1207
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:17,280
i was standing in one report i saw

1208
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:19,440
somebody said i was standing near it

1209
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:21,520
i'm six foot and this thing towered over

1210
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:23,920
me by two three maybe four feet could

1211
00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:26,160
have been ten feet tall this guy said

1212
00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:29,680
that sort of eliminates the barnyard owl

1213
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:32,559
or bard owl explanation

1214
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:33,440
now

1215
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:34,160
i

1216
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:44,960
and

1217
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,200
john keel doesn't make absolutist

1218
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:48,960
statements like he doesn't say i'm

1219
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:50,720
convinced it's this

1220
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:53,440
uh he speculates but

1221
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:55,680
in his book it really appears to me that

1222
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:57,520
john keel believed that this was some

1223
00:53:04,069 --> 00:53:00,400
sort of interdimensional being

1224
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:04,079
that it was somehow transported into our

1225
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:07,200
physical realm from another dimension

1226
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:09,680
that's was his belief and john keogh has

1227
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:11,680
spent more time uh probably

1228
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:13,599
investigating mothman than most other

1229
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,000
people after all he was the originator

1230
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:18,160
of the story

1231
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:19,760
john keel believed that it was some sort

1232
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:22,000
of interdimensional being but that it

1233
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:24,880
was related to the phenomenon of ghosts

1234
00:53:31,109 --> 00:53:29,200
demons spirits and ufos in some way

1235
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:31,119
that's an interesting theory and again

1236
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,800
the people who are on the side of this

1237
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:34,880
is an interdimensional being most of

1238
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:36,559
them believe that this thing is some

1239
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:38,960
sort of harbinger of doom

1240
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:39,760
um

1241
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:41,200
we talked about

1242
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:44,480
how people keep seeing mothman before

1243
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:47,280
great tragedies before 9 11 people claim

1244
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:49,440
to have seen there was mothman sightings

1245
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:51,119
before fukushima

1246
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:54,000
uh before the meltdown in russia in that

1247
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:56,000
area there were mothman sightings and i

1248
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,839
mean these are on the record there's

1249
00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:59,599
there were sightings

1250
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:01,599
of the mockman before those terrible

1251
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:03,200
events happen

1252
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:04,000
so

1253
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:08,079
interdimensional being trying to warn us

1254
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,400
about impending doom

1255
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:12,640
why is the mothman cited

1256
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:15,440
so many times before great tragedies

1257
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:17,440
it's one of those tantalizing little

1258
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:20,640
aspects of the mothman story that really

1259
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:22,640
make you think and make you wonder

1260
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,800
what could it be and

1261
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:27,119
i you know but to me i don't understand

1262
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,720
if it's trying to warn us why it doesn't

1263
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,960
just swoop down and talk to us and say

1264
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:32,880
hey um

1265
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:34,480
maybe you better shore up that bridge

1266
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:36,400
because it's its structure is terrible

1267
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:38,319
and it's going to collapse we don't get

1268
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,430
now an interesting

1269
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:50,000
point also of people who are seeing

1270
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:52,400
mothman that i really want to stress is

1271
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:53,599
that

1272
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:55,599
many of the recites of the of the

1273
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:57,920
sightings people report having these

1274
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,680
strange emotional waves come over them

1275
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:03,359
now certainly if you're going to see

1276
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:04,880
something otherworldly like this you're

1277
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:06,400
going to be afraid

1278
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:08,559
but many people have reported some sort

1279
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:09,920
of

1280
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:11,359
emotional

1281
00:55:16,789 --> 00:55:14,559
feeling of impending doom and gloom

1282
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:16,799
after the sighting that lasts

1283
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:18,960
like an emotional hangover for weeks

1284
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:25,670
so could it be

1285
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:28,640
that this creature can somehow

1286
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:35,990
just another

1287
00:55:44,549 --> 00:55:41,440
strange part of the story

1288
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:45,910
finally

1289
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:48,240
i talked to a theologian

1290
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:49,200
who

1291
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,200
looked over some of the uh

1292
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:53,440
reports and the pictures for me

1293
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,920
and and this is this is why this some of

1294
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:57,599
this stuff is very interesting to me

1295
00:56:01,829 --> 00:55:59,280
because we talked about how my friend

1296
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:01,839
who is a big believer in ufos and aliens

1297
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:04,000
is convinced that mothman is an alien

1298
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:07,599
from a planet inhabited by bird people

1299
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,079
john keel and others believe it's some

1300
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:12,319
sort of interdimensional being with some

1301
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:15,440
sort of connection to ghosts spirits etc

1302
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:16,480
uh

1303
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,880
the theologian that i spoke to he's a

1304
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:20,319
catholic priest

1305
00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:23,599
he is told me that's a demon that's

1306
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:25,359
absolutely a demon

1307
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,040
and i said well

1308
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:29,280
i thought demons didn't have bodies and

1309
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:30,960
you know no a demon can appear in

1310
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:32,720
whatever form it wishes

1311
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:35,359
but this is a demon the leathery wings

1312
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:36,640
people describe it as being

1313
00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:39,200
gargoyle-like that's a fallen angel

1314
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:41,920
that's a demon and i try to press this

1315
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:43,119
priest for

1316
00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:46,160
okay but why is a demon just like flying

1317
00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:48,400
around people and scaring them and he

1318
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:50,079
didn't really have an answer

1319
00:56:54,549 --> 00:56:52,799
but he was convinced that mothman is a

1320
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:54,559
demon

1321
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,079
and

1322
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:58,960
there are also reports from john keel

1323
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:01,520
john keel had strange phenomenon

1324
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:04,160
surrounding him during the entire time

1325
00:57:14,309 --> 00:57:12,950
john keel was getting strange phone

1326
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:14,319
calls

1327
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:17,440
with robotic voices

1328
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:18,720
warning him

1329
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:22,710
and

1330
00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:24,480
there is also

1331
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:26,079
this strange connection to something

1332
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:28,160
called indrid coal

1333
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:29,040
um

1334
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:30,559
but i think that a lot of people have

1335
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:33,920
conflated both those two separate

1336
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:35,040
things

1337
00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:36,799
um

1338
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:38,559
let's take a look though because that's

1339
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:47,270
indrid cold

1340
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:52,480
man is an allegedly humanoid entity his

1341
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:54,240
name comes from his tendency to smile at

1342
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,000
those who encounter it is said that he

1343
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:58,000
still visits west virginia to this day

1344
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:59,839
so here is another

1345
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:00,799
um

1346
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,599
here is another strange thing

1347
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:05,760
and again injured cold i'm going to

1348
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:08,720
share my screen so that um let me stop

1349
00:58:12,309 --> 00:58:10,000
that one

1350
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:12,319
i'm gonna share my screen once again

1351
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:14,880
another phenomenon a strange phenomenon

1352
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,960
coming out of west virginia

1353
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:18,319
and

1354
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,880
some people conflate these two

1355
00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:22,559
uh these two

1356
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:25,119
paranormal things mothman and injured

1357
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:27,040
cold because they come from the same

1358
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:28,000
place

1359
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:28,799
and

1360
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,880
some people have seen both which is

1361
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:32,960
crazy to me but okay

1362
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:34,240
um

1363
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:36,319
so the injured cold was first seen

1364
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:38,960
october 16 1966 when two boys martin

1365
00:58:42,309 --> 00:58:40,240
mouse

1366
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,319
munov and james jimmy

1367
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:44,640
uh yanchevis in new jersey were walking

1368
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:46,160
on fourth street when they saw a surreal

1369
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:48,000
figure standing near the fence as they

1370
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:50,799
walked closer the figure was a tall bald

1371
00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:53,119
man wearing a metal green suit who was

1372
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:55,599
staring right at them with a huge grin

1373
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:57,599
the idiosyncratic man chased them until

1374
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,160
he got until they got away from them ufo

1375
00:59:03,510 --> 00:59:02,319
sightings were also reported around the

1376
00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:03,520
area

1377
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:05,839
and there are more sightings of this

1378
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:08,240
strange injured coal

1379
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:09,200
and

1380
00:59:15,109 --> 00:59:12,480
apparently john keel also investigated

1381
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:15,119
this and this he believed

1382
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:17,119
some of the phone calls the strange

1383
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:19,599
phone calls that he was getting

1384
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:22,240
was from indrid cold this strange

1385
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:27,270
the explanations for injured cold is

1386
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:28,880
it's commonly believed that indrik may

1387
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:31,520
be an alien entity and is supported by

1388
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:34,079
its close connection with ufo activity

1389
00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:35,839
and with uh

1390
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:38,160
derenberger's sighting it is also said

1391
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:40,720
by darren berger that the grinning man

1392
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:42,640
is in fact a species of aliens with

1393
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:44,640
multiple grinning men although it is

1394
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:46,319
unlikely unless the aliens are

1395
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,760
shape-shifters because it would be

1396
00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:49,680
almost impossible for a race to take the

1397
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:52,480
exact evolutionary path as us however

1398
00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:54,319
the third sighting by the lily family

1399
00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:56,720
suggests instead it may be a ghost or a

1400
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:57,839
spirit

1401
01:00:02,309 --> 00:59:59,119
so

1402
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:02,319
another just another weird weird i'm

1403
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:03,599
sorry i didn't realize i was sharing

1404
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:06,319
that so small just another weird weird

1405
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:07,839
part of the story

1406
01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:10,559
and sometimes and in the movie mothman

1407
01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:13,040
prophecies with richard gere they they

1408
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:15,680
can they mix these two

1409
01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:19,040
and in in the movie somehow this injured

1410
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:21,119
cold alien entity

1411
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:24,240
is the person calling john keel i don't

1412
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:25,760
believe that that may be accurate

1413
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,640
according to john keele's book but

1414
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:30,160
it is what it is

1415
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,400
just another strange part of the mothman

1416
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:34,559
story is that right in the same area we

1417
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:37,359
have this ufo flap and then people are

1418
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:39,760
seeing this grinning strange man

1419
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:40,640
right

1420
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:43,839
uh and people reported phone calls from

1421
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:46,960
this injured cold like he there's people

1422
01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:48,160
just say

1423
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:50,319
this strange man starts calling me i ask

1424
01:00:54,549 --> 01:00:52,400
who it is he says his name is indrid

1425
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:54,559
cold

1426
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:57,280
weird weird weird part of the story

1427
01:01:02,950 --> 01:00:58,240
um

1428
01:01:07,109 --> 01:01:05,109
so i i talked about the possible

1429
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:07,119
explanations for what mothman is and i

1430
01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:10,240
find it very interesting that

1431
01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:13,200
what mothman is depends on who you ask

1432
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:15,520
if you ask a big believer in aliens and

1433
01:01:20,950 --> 01:01:19,119
ufos mothman is is for sure an alien i

1434
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:20,960
asked a priest to look over some of the

1435
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:23,440
sighting reports and the pictures and

1436
01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:25,839
the depictions the drawn depictions the

1437
01:01:31,349 --> 01:01:28,720
priest was sure this was a demon

1438
01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:31,359
if you ask uh somebody who's an expert

1439
01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:34,559
on animals or wildlife most of them say

1440
01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:37,680
this is all just a misidentified animal

1441
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:39,760
so interesting

1442
01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:41,520
now about the physical characteristics

1443
01:01:46,230 --> 01:01:43,520
most of the reports

1444
01:01:49,270 --> 01:01:46,240
indicate that mothman is between six and

1445
01:01:51,510 --> 01:01:49,280
ten feet tall with a ten foot plus uh

1446
01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:51,520
size wingspan

1447
01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:52,400
um

1448
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:55,760
it's been compared to a big owl man a

1449
01:02:01,670 --> 01:01:58,640
pterosaur and a batman some people

1450
01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:01,680
describe seeing a batman a man with bat

1451
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:03,280
wings

1452
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:05,520
now on eye color it's interesting

1453
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:07,760
because maltman has most often been

1454
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:09,520
reported with glowing red eyes but

1455
01:02:13,430 --> 01:02:10,960
there's also been reports with green

1456
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:13,440
eyes yellow eyes orange eyes all have

1457
01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:14,640
been reported

1458
01:02:17,829 --> 01:02:15,920
probably all the colors have been

1459
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:17,839
reported too

1460
01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:20,400
but most of the reports cite glowing red

1461
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:21,839
eyes

1462
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:23,920
other reported features of the mothman

1463
01:02:27,349 --> 01:02:25,839
in various sightings some say it's

1464
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:27,359
covered in fur

1465
01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:29,280
some say there's no fur it was

1466
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:31,039
leather-like skin

1467
01:02:36,069 --> 01:02:33,359
others say that it had bat wings others

1468
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:36,079
say no it was definitely bird wings some

1469
01:02:40,549 --> 01:02:38,319
people say that the creature is covered

1470
01:02:41,990 --> 01:02:40,559
in gray

1471
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:42,000
feathers

1472
01:02:47,589 --> 01:02:46,240
so i suppose the reports vary

1473
01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:47,599
now there could be a lot of different

1474
01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:49,280
explanations for that maybe some people

1475
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:51,039
see it far away and they're mistaking

1476
01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:52,480
fur for feathers

1477
01:02:55,750 --> 01:02:54,319
or leather-like skin

1478
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:55,760
i don't know but i find it interesting

1479
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:58,160
that the reports though similar many of

1480
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:00,319
the reports are very very similar there

1481
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:02,000
are significant differences in a lot of

1482
01:03:07,349 --> 01:03:04,880
these reports so it's hard to

1483
01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:07,359
to get a definitive answer what does

1484
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:09,520
mothman look like

1485
01:03:13,670 --> 01:03:11,440
it depends on who sees him and what the

1486
01:03:14,829 --> 01:03:13,680
witness says really

1487
01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:14,839
um and

1488
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:17,920
again animal experts say could sometimes

1489
01:03:22,549 --> 01:03:20,640
confuse with bard al uh san hook crane

1490
01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:22,559
and others

1491
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:23,599
now

1492
01:03:27,029 --> 01:03:25,440
uh

1493
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:27,039
we mentioned john keel the original

1494
01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:28,559
investigator and author of the mothman

1495
01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:31,039
privacy prophecies it's a great book if

1496
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:32,960
you're looking for a great book john

1497
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:34,720
keel's book the mothman prophecies is

1498
01:03:38,950 --> 01:03:37,200
one of those books you get and it gets

1499
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:38,960
good in the beginning and then it just

1500
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:40,960
keeps getting better it reads almost

1501
01:03:45,270 --> 01:03:43,119
like a spy thriller and you can't put it

1502
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:45,280
down i i recommend that book and i

1503
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:46,720
recommend the movie

1504
01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:48,480
um

1505
01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:49,520
so

1506
01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:51,520
what is it what do you guys think in the

1507
01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:54,799
live chat let me know in the comments

1508
01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:56,960
which experts are right

1509
01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:59,039
because the ufo experts and alien

1510
01:04:02,710 --> 01:04:01,039
experts swear it's an alien

1511
01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:02,720
some ghost people i've talked to they

1512
01:04:07,349 --> 01:04:05,119
swear it's an interdimensional being

1513
01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:07,359
like a ghost or you know

1514
01:04:10,710 --> 01:04:08,960
a demon

1515
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:10,720
animal experts again claim it's

1516
01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:12,720
misidentified animals what do you think

1517
01:04:16,870 --> 01:04:14,960
mothman is let me know in the live chat

1518
01:04:19,029 --> 01:04:16,880
let me know in the comments

1519
01:04:20,950 --> 01:04:19,039
um

1520
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:20,960
i wanted to uh

1521
01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:24,000
i wanted to do one more thing

1522
01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:25,280
we've shown you

1523
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:28,319
most of what i have for you

1524
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:39,190
one second here

1525
01:04:43,510 --> 01:04:41,270
there have been very recent sightings in

1526
01:04:45,270 --> 01:04:43,520
chicago of all places and i've got an

1527
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:45,280
article from vice

1528
01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:47,359
again uh this is fair use this is a

1529
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:50,079
transformative work we will be uh

1530
01:04:53,589 --> 01:04:51,440
discussing the article that we're

1531
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:53,599
sharing which we're using to educate the

1532
01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:54,400
public

1533
01:04:58,470 --> 01:04:56,559
we'll be critiquing and discussing it

1534
01:04:59,910 --> 01:04:58,480
this is an article from vice titled

1535
01:05:03,910 --> 01:04:59,920
people keep seeing the mothman in

1536
01:05:06,309 --> 01:05:03,920
chicago uh there have been a wave of new

1537
01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:06,319
sightings of mothman recently in the

1538
01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:09,119
city of chicago

1539
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:10,640
so the vice article states it was a

1540
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:13,440
normal summer night for john amitrano

1541
01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:15,520
working a friday shift as security for

1542
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:17,599
chicago's popular logan square hangout

1543
01:05:21,190 --> 01:05:19,760
the owl i find it interesting that he's

1544
01:05:23,349 --> 01:05:21,200
hanging out a place called the owl and

1545
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:23,359
then he sees a mothman but

1546
01:05:27,270 --> 01:05:25,440
you know synchronicity

1547
01:05:30,309 --> 01:05:27,280
but when else when he went outside he

1548
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:30,319
saw something odd i saw a plane flying

1549
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:31,760
but also something moving really

1550
01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:33,680
awkwardly under it he told vice it

1551
01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:36,079
didn't look like a bat so much as what

1552
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:38,240
the illustrations of pterodactyl look

1553
01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:39,839
like with the slenderness of its head

1554
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:41,359
and its wing sheet

1555
01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:44,319
i know what birds uh i know what birds

1556
01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:46,400
and what bats look like this thing

1557
01:05:51,029 --> 01:05:48,480
didn't have any feathers or fur and it

1558
01:05:53,109 --> 01:05:51,039
didn't fly like anything i've ever seen

1559
01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:53,119
amitrano added that the thing he saw

1560
01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:55,760
which according to him had muscular legs

1561
01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:57,599
a jutting tailbone and a human-like

1562
01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:00,960
shape flew in a strange swooping motion

1563
01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:03,200
undulating up and down

1564
01:06:06,549 --> 01:06:04,960
after it flew away he retrieved his

1565
01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:06,559
phone from charging in the bar and

1566
01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:08,160
texted his girlfriend and close friends

1567
01:06:12,069 --> 01:06:10,480
when it happened i remember thinking

1568
01:06:14,230 --> 01:06:12,079
this was the worst time in the world to

1569
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:14,240
have my phone charging he left so yeah

1570
01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:15,280
unfortunately he didn't get any

1571
01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:17,280
photographs

1572
01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:19,599
what amateranos saw that night was one

1573
01:06:25,630 --> 01:06:23,039
of the 55 we have 55 reported chicago

1574
01:06:29,829 --> 01:06:25,640
area sightings of a flying humanoid in

1575
01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:29,839
2007. i did some checking and in 2018

1576
01:06:35,510 --> 01:06:33,440
1920 21 22 we have less reports but

1577
01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:35,520
there are still reports of a flying

1578
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:38,160
winged man in chicago today

1579
01:06:42,069 --> 01:06:40,000
accounts are varied from a large black

1580
01:06:44,470 --> 01:06:42,079
bat like being with glowing red eyes to

1581
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:44,480
a big owl or something that resembles a

1582
01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:47,280
gothic gargoyle or a

1583
01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:49,280
moth man

1584
01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:51,039
most eyewitnesses spot at the being in

1585
01:06:55,109 --> 01:06:52,880
flight but some particularly disturbing

1586
01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:55,119
reports detail that dropping onto hoods

1587
01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:56,240
of cars

1588
01:06:59,750 --> 01:06:58,559
peering in through windows and swooping

1589
01:07:02,150 --> 01:06:59,760
down by

1590
01:07:04,309 --> 01:07:02,160
bystanders the alleged mothman has

1591
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:04,319
captured the attention of the city from

1592
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:06,720
local media articles and rap songs

1593
01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:08,400
people are making rap songs about this

1594
01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:09,359
thing

1595
01:07:14,309 --> 01:07:11,200
two halloween costumes and countless

1596
01:07:16,150 --> 01:07:14,319
speculative facebook groups

1597
01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:16,160
amaterano later remembered seeing

1598
01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:17,599
something on facebook about the

1599
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:19,839
sightings and as he read more about it

1600
01:07:24,549 --> 01:07:22,319
contacted lon strickler a self-described

1601
01:07:26,069 --> 01:07:24,559
40 and researcher who's been compiling

1602
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:26,079
all of the chicago sightings on his

1603
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:28,000
website and somebody mentioned lon

1604
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:30,000
strickler to me and yeah i'm gonna reach

1605
01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:31,280
out to him and see if we can't get an

1606
01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:33,039
interview because he's been looking into

1607
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:34,720
these sightings firsthand i'd love to

1608
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:37,200
talk to him

1609
01:07:41,829 --> 01:07:39,760
he's got a website phantoms and monsters

1610
01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:41,839
strickler whose book mothman dynasty

1611
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:43,680
chicago's winged humanoids was released

1612
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:45,599
last month has been investigating

1613
01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:47,280
paranormal sightings since the late

1614
01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:49,839
1970s and claims to have seen a mothman

1615
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:52,160
and bigfoot since the rashford sighting

1616
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:53,520
starting in february he's been

1617
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:55,680
painstakingly interviewing witnesses and

1618
01:07:59,670 --> 01:07:57,520
documenting their accounts

1619
01:08:01,750 --> 01:07:59,680
according to strickler the chicago

1620
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:01,760
sightings are unlike anything he's seen

1621
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:03,599
in his decades investigating alleged

1622
01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:05,520
flying humanoid sightings

1623
01:08:08,829 --> 01:08:07,599
this group of sightings is historical he

1624
01:08:10,349 --> 01:08:08,839
said in

1625
01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:10,359
cryptological

1626
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:12,799
cryptozoological terms for one it's

1627
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:14,720
happening in an urban area for the most

1628
01:08:17,910 --> 01:08:15,760
part

1629
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:17,920
and there are so many sightings in one

1630
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:19,839
period he added that he believes there

1631
01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:21,600
are at least three flying humanoids

1632
01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:23,359
around chicago due to the varied

1633
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:25,520
locations the concentrations of

1634
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:27,120
sightings in certain neighborhoods and

1635
01:08:31,510 --> 01:08:29,199
the small differences in eyewitness

1636
01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:31,520
testimonies so this is pretty

1637
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:33,440
interesting because it appears that this

1638
01:08:38,229 --> 01:08:36,319
expert who's been interviewing witnesses

1639
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:38,239
he doesn't think there's a moth man he

1640
01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:40,560
thinks there's moth men

1641
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:42,319
three of them

1642
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:43,920
the main reference point strickler uses

1643
01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:45,440
for explaining this phenomenon was the

1644
01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:47,279
wave of reported mothman sightings in

1645
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:50,000
point pleasant west virginia from 1966

1646
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:52,799
to 1967 there were several reports of a

1647
01:08:56,149 --> 01:08:54,960
large bird-like man with glowing red

1648
01:08:59,430 --> 01:08:56,159
eyes

1649
01:09:02,709 --> 01:09:01,269
strickler doesn't believe however that

1650
01:09:04,870 --> 01:09:02,719
chicagoans have been seeing or

1651
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:04,880
harbingers of bad things to come

1652
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:06,880
these beings are less aggressive than

1653
01:09:10,550 --> 01:09:08,400
the one in point pleasant for the most

1654
01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:10,560
part i believe overall

1655
01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:12,239
there was only one thing in point

1656
01:09:15,749 --> 01:09:13,679
pleasant area

1657
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:15,759
that was seen during that period while

1658
01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:17,759
he's not sure why chicagoans are seeing

1659
01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:19,920
what they're seeing he theorized i think

1660
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:21,679
they're flesh and bloods beings that are

1661
01:09:27,030 --> 01:09:24,960
not that aren't of this world

1662
01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:27,040
so interesting friends the sightings

1663
01:09:30,789 --> 01:09:28,400
continue

1664
01:09:33,749 --> 01:09:30,799
we have not just sightings back in the

1665
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:33,759
60s but we have sightings more recently

1666
01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:36,960
uh in chicago and i've found references

1667
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:40,000
to mothman sightings in other areas of

1668
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:42,880
illinois especially and other places

1669
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:45,600
throughout the country

1670
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:47,359
it's a pretty common occurrence and it's

1671
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,960
strange to me that there's so many

1672
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:50,719
common occurrences of sightings of

1673
01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:52,480
flying winged men

1674
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:54,640
but this is where we're at in this

1675
01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:56,400
strange world and this is where we find

1676
01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:57,600
ourselves

1677
01:10:02,149 --> 01:10:00,000
the story of the mothman has fascinated

1678
01:10:03,669 --> 01:10:02,159
me since i first heard it and i'm happy

1679
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to bring you some

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history and perspective into this

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01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:09,040
enduring mystery tonight

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01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:11,360
so friends i'm going to take a short

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read

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01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:20,800
all the super chats when we come back

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01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:23,280
and i will take comments and questions

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01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:24,960
from the live chat

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i will be

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devoting my full and total attention to

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the live chat

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[Music]

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what you see

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[Music]

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no matter what you see

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01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:07,840
no one's watching me

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01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:10,370
at least

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[Music]

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you fall

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01:12:02,440 --> 01:12:07,030
[Music]

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01:12:12,670 --> 01:12:09,110
have appeared

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so much

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[Music]

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so um

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[Music]

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01:13:37,679 --> 01:14:03,290
so much

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[Music]

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so

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[Music]

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greetings and salutations friends you're

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watching truth seekers and we're

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01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:29,120
continuing our new series enduring

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01:15:32,390 --> 01:15:30,320
mysteries

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uh tonight we're talking about the

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01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:35,920
mysterious mothman

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01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:38,640
and it is one of my favorite of uh

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01:15:44,390 --> 01:15:41,840
conspiracy land stories uh

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01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:44,400
i suppose i have followed it since

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01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:47,440
i first heard about it in the early

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01:15:52,229 --> 01:15:50,400
no it would have been in the mid 1990s i

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01:15:53,350 --> 01:15:52,239
suppose when i first got john keel's

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01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:53,360
book

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01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,080
mothman pride prophecies so we're gonna

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01:16:00,550 --> 01:15:58,719
be taking comments questions uh

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01:16:01,830 --> 01:16:00,560
and suggestions for new shows from the

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01:16:03,669 --> 01:16:01,840
live chat

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01:16:05,510 --> 01:16:03,679
um but let me take a moment to remind

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01:16:07,030 --> 01:16:05,520
you that we're a viewer supported show

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01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:07,040
there's a few ways that you can support

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01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:09,040
our show here the first is to join us on

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01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:10,880
patreon for as little as a dollar a

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01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:13,600
month you get some additional content a

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01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:16,239
sort of backstage pass

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01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:18,640
into the things going on in the show we

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01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:21,760
do a monthly show journal as well as

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01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:23,520
um also

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01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:25,600
my music goes to

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01:16:30,149 --> 01:16:27,920
patreon before it becomes public so you

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01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:30,159
sort of get a sneak peek at many of the

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01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:32,080
things that i'm working on another way

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01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:34,080
to support us is those super chats the

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01:16:38,229 --> 01:16:36,560
money button down there in the live chat

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01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:38,239
uh that's a great way to throw a couple

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01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:40,159
of bucks in our hat and keep us

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01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:42,719
producing this content

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01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:45,440
and finally uh the super chats work

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01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:47,120
during the live broadcast but you can

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01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:49,040
always send a paypal donation the

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01:16:53,510 --> 01:16:51,199
instructions to do that are in the

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01:16:55,510 --> 01:16:53,520
description of the video here just be

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01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:55,520
sure to add a note and give us your chat

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01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:57,520
room user id and anything you'd like us

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01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,840
to shout out and we'll do that now i

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01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:01,360
believe we've already read the super

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01:17:04,470 --> 01:17:02,880
chats but i'm going to check in with

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01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:04,480
them just the same

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01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:06,480
um and

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01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:08,320
make sure that everybody is aware and

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01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:09,520
knows that

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01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:11,120
some shows don't even read the super

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01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:13,679
chats which i was always surprised by

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01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:17,440
um we read every single super chat here

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01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:20,400
so tonight we had uh two one from lon

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01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:22,640
strickler uh it was a super chat

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01:17:26,709 --> 01:17:23,760
purchase

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01:17:28,830 --> 01:17:26,719
thank you lon strickler uh and uh oh

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01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:28,840
it's lon strickler is here

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01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:31,679
geez somebody just sent me your your

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01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:33,679
phone number your cell phone number lon

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01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:35,360
strickler and if it's okay with you i'll

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01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:37,520
be giving you a call and shadow zone

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01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:39,040
productions with the kind and generous

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01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:40,239
super chat

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01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:42,560
donation thrown a couple of bucks in the

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01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:43,600
hat

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01:17:47,350 --> 01:17:45,360
i'm sorry i didn't recognize the name

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01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:47,360
when i first saw the super chat mr

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01:17:51,350 --> 01:17:49,280
strickler but i'd be sure happy to talk

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01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:51,360
to you

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01:17:56,149 --> 01:17:53,920
that's a weird thing right

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01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:56,159
so we read every single super chat uh

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01:18:00,550 --> 01:17:58,480
now we'll just be dedicating

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01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:00,560
uh the rest of the show's attention to

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01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:02,800
the live chat so comments questions

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01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:04,880
suggestions for me please do

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01:18:08,229 --> 01:18:06,560
six senses reminding everybody please

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01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:08,239
use caps for comments questions and

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01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:09,840
suggestions i happen to be visually

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01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:10,880
impaired

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01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:13,520
and the uh comments in all caps really

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01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:14,960
does help me to know that that's a

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01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:17,360
comment you want me to like a question

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01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:18,880
you want me to answer or comment you

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01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:20,960
want me to share with the rest of the

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01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:23,920
audience we have al warriors here saying

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01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:26,080
good evening guys good to see al warrior

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01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:28,320
here

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01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:31,280
okay dave tv says isn't the montauk

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01:18:36,149 --> 01:18:33,520
monster in the same general area as

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01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:36,159
mothman well montauk was in new york and

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01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:38,560
west virginia is pretty far distance

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01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:40,719
from new york state so i'm not sure that

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01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:42,960
those two things are connected

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01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:46,080
um but but yeah and victor cagliaro is

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01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:47,600
here mentioning i still remember the

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01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:49,280
movie about the mothman with richard

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01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:51,120
gere i think it was a great movie i

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01:18:54,550 --> 01:18:52,800
think they did a great job and of course

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01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:54,560
hollywood over dramatizes things but

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01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:56,560
it's a movie they have to

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01:19:01,750 --> 01:18:58,960
historically they got a few things wrong

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01:19:02,790 --> 01:19:01,760
but i think it really tells a compelling

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01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:02,800
story

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01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:04,480
of what it was like and and what

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01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:06,239
happened at the time and

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01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,199
you know the people that were

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01:19:12,390 --> 01:19:09,520
investigating it looking into it

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01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:12,400
and how it affected this strange small

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01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:14,560
town in west virginia sleepy small town

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01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:18,320
in west virginia not a big place

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01:19:21,110 --> 01:19:19,440
here we go

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01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:21,120
and that's a theory too uh that i

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01:19:25,830 --> 01:19:23,679
shouldn't leave out i i kept forgetting

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01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:25,840
to leave that out bob ritter says have a

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01:19:29,669 --> 01:19:27,600
feeling the mothman was a result of some

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01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:29,679
weird super soldier experiment

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01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:31,120
actually at the time some people

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01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:33,040
believed that it may have been an animal

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01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:35,920
that was mutated by chemicals that were

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01:19:40,470 --> 01:19:38,080
in and around this tnt area so there's

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01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:40,480
another explanation for you maybe it was

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01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:43,520
an animal that got you know

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01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:44,880
remember like teenage mutant ninja

1832
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:46,800
turtles they got oozed

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01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:49,120
with slime and then they turned into

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01:19:53,350 --> 01:19:51,120
turtlemen

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01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:53,360
hey it's a good explanation as any maybe

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01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:54,800
there were some strange chemicals in

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01:20:02,550 --> 01:19:58,000
that tnt area that somehow

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01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:05,750
some somehow mutated uh a live animal

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01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:07,440
into some kind of

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01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:10,320
man-bird creature who knows

1841
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:12,080
dan hogan truthseeker's new episode

1842
01:20:15,990 --> 01:20:14,159
enduring mysteries number three oven fry

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01:20:18,149 --> 01:20:16,000
fired pizza that dan never gets from

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01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:18,159
camby and that's a huge mystery to me

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01:20:22,229 --> 01:20:19,679
well you got to visit the cabin i'll

1846
01:20:23,669 --> 01:20:22,239
i'll uh i'll uh fire up the wood stove

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01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:23,679
if you ever make it there and remember i

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01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:25,600
do have a uh

1849
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:27,600
dan i do have a trailer next to the

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01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:29,760
cabin that sleeps too but i gotta fix

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01:20:35,189 --> 01:20:33,120
the door on it the door uh

1852
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,199
basically fell apart from weather i

1853
01:20:40,390 --> 01:20:37,600
guess and i try to fix it i got a new

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01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:40,400
door to put on there but it doesn't fit

1855
01:20:44,229 --> 01:20:42,480
i'll fix it before you get there though

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01:20:45,910 --> 01:20:44,239
so uh yeah

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01:20:47,350 --> 01:20:45,920
any more comments or questions for me

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01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:47,360
otherwise we're going to bounce on out

1859
01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:49,600
of here and call it a quick one tonight

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01:20:54,149 --> 01:20:52,320
i'm glad that we could um

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01:20:55,910 --> 01:20:54,159
uh oh in the sixth sense is recognizing

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01:20:58,629 --> 01:20:55,920
that the song played was jason paul

1863
01:21:01,110 --> 01:20:58,639
elder his song called wrong his studio

1864
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:01,120
version of that song and there is if you

1865
01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:03,040
want to hear more jason paul elder songs

1866
01:21:06,550 --> 01:21:04,960
there is a great

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01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:06,560
youtube channel link

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01:21:11,590 --> 01:21:08,400
kindly shared by the sixth sense so you

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01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:14,229
uh homo trollius says truth seekers it

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01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:15,840
was the mutagen

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01:21:18,629 --> 01:21:16,719
yeah

1872
01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:18,639
it quite possibly could be on the rise

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01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:20,239
says good show stephen well thank you

1874
01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:22,400
for your kindness and your support on

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01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:24,480
their eyes good to have you here that

1876
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:27,280
girl jessica late as usual yeah women

1877
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:29,360
are always late you know that you make

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01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:30,480
men wait

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01:21:33,669 --> 01:21:32,080
the two things that annoy me the most

1880
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:33,679
about women is that they're always late

1881
01:21:38,870 --> 01:21:36,639
and they make you wait forever you know

1882
01:21:40,149 --> 01:21:38,880
now actually i don't get upset i used to

1883
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:40,159
get upset

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01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:41,440
right

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01:21:45,590 --> 01:21:43,600
because i it takes a man a while to

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01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:45,600
realize that a woman needs three hours

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01:21:51,030 --> 01:21:48,080
of uh showering

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01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:51,040
pricking prodding shaving hair makeup

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01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:53,920
and more to be able to go outside and

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01:21:58,310 --> 01:21:56,239
we're men we're slobs we just you know

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01:22:03,030 --> 01:21:58,320
if you're lucky we take a shower and

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01:22:06,070 --> 01:22:05,189
spooky says do a show on the greer wild

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01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:06,080
man

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01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:07,120
uh

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01:22:11,270 --> 01:22:08,960
not so sure about that

1896
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:11,280
but uh yeah zach

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01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:15,040
die cast man sewer says sloth man not so

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01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:16,159
uh

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01:22:23,110 --> 01:22:17,840
not so up on

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01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:24,709
yeah somebody's asking me for the link

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01:22:26,950 --> 01:22:25,760
to the

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01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:26,960
um

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01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:29,199
to the discord server uh we're going to

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01:22:33,610 --> 01:22:31,360
try to send that

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01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:33,620
we'll see

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01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:36,480
[Music]

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01:22:40,709 --> 01:22:38,880
yeah and uh i'm getting texts from alien

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01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:40,719
scientists uh he's asking me for the

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01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:43,760
link to my discord server so

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01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:47,440
one second some some people uh you know

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01:22:51,110 --> 01:22:49,199
i have to do something for right away

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01:22:53,590 --> 01:22:51,120
before i forget

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01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:53,600
so uh just bear with me i'm gonna send

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01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:55,679
alien scientists an invitation and

1915
01:22:59,669 --> 01:22:57,520
actually it's a good opportunity to

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01:23:02,390 --> 01:22:59,679
remind everybody that

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01:23:03,350 --> 01:23:02,400
um we have a discord server i'm gonna

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01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:03,360
put

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01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:05,600
the invitation to the discord server

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01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:07,760
right in the live chat here so bear with

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01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:09,760
me and i'm gonna also make sure that we

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01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:11,760
get it over to alien scientist friend of

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01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:12,800
the show

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01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:13,760
um

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01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:16,400
he's looking he's looking for it so

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01:23:19,830 --> 01:23:17,840
and that

1927
01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:19,840
somebody again has to show me how to get

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01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:22,320
an invitation for the discord server

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01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:24,639
uh that does not expire because that

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01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:32,790
opportunity to remind everybody though

1931
01:23:38,950 --> 01:23:34,960
that we have a discord server

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01:23:40,709 --> 01:23:38,960
and uh so if you enjoy the live chat

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01:23:42,709 --> 01:23:40,719
uh feature here

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01:23:45,189 --> 01:23:42,719
during our live broadcast just know that

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01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:45,199
we have a discord server so you don't

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01:23:49,030 --> 01:23:46,719
just get to chat with fellow truth

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01:23:50,629 --> 01:23:49,040
seekers during the live broadcasts here

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01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:50,639
you can go over to our discord server

1939
01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:53,040
and chat 24 7 and we have these

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01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:55,199
different uh i think it's really it's

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01:24:00,310 --> 01:23:57,280
really coming along you know i started

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01:24:02,629 --> 01:24:00,320
it spooky fixed it um but we have an

1943
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:02,639
introductions channel we have general

1944
01:24:06,910 --> 01:24:04,400
channel we have a channel where you can

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01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:06,920
drop your links stories and news

1946
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:09,920
cryptozoology memes which is i check the

1947
01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:11,360
memes first because there's some funny

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01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:13,520
stuff about conspiracy land in there

1949
01:24:17,830 --> 01:24:15,199
every time i check it

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01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:17,840
uh we have ufo and the phenomenon we

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01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:19,440
have a gaming uh

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01:24:24,310 --> 01:24:21,600
sub channel bob lazar

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01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:24,320
uh there's an anjali and grifters by

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01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:25,600
request

1955
01:24:28,709 --> 01:24:27,199
so uh

1956
01:24:31,189 --> 01:24:28,719
yeah

1957
01:24:33,830 --> 01:24:31,199
and uh you can use that discord server

1958
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:33,840
24 uh yeah

1959
01:24:38,229 --> 01:24:35,040
it's okay

1960
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,239
don't worry about it jeremy i i i uh

1961
01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:40,560
i thought i i always mean jeremy to put

1962
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:42,480
my phone on do not disturb but i most of

1963
01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:44,480
the time i forget so

1964
01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:45,520
you know

1965
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:47,520
if somebody texts me

1966
01:24:50,149 --> 01:24:48,880
sometimes i'm worried that it was

1967
01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:50,159
something going on with the live show

1968
01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:51,840
like the sound is they on or something's

1969
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:53,679
not working so i always look at it but

1970
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:56,480
yeah i put the invitation to the discord

1971
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:58,320
right in the live chat right above you

1972
01:25:02,149 --> 01:25:00,000
there in the live chat you'll see it and

1973
01:25:04,070 --> 01:25:02,159
i'm gonna i'm gonna send it over to you

1974
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:04,080
on twitter just to be sure that you have

1975
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:05,360
it would you like to have alien

1976
01:25:08,870 --> 01:25:07,679
scientist on our discord server

1977
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:08,880
uh

1978
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:11,360
one second let me make sure that i get

1979
01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:13,440
that over to him

1980
01:25:18,310 --> 01:25:16,480
and so uh discord invite

1981
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:18,320
and i sent jeremy some

1982
01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:20,400
information earlier it would appear that

1983
01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:23,199
there is a new possibility of what that

1984
01:25:28,709 --> 01:25:25,360
so-called s-force site it may actually

1985
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:28,719
be a nuclear waste disposal site but but

1986
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:30,719
i'm going to try and follow up and get

1987
01:25:35,350 --> 01:25:33,120
some verification of that i had

1988
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:35,360
sent a message

1989
01:25:39,990 --> 01:25:37,600
i got a message from someone

1990
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:40,000
who is an environmental watchdog and

1991
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:43,360
fights to expose government waste sites

1992
01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:45,120
and he sent me a message that would seem

1993
01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:46,960
to indicate that that site might be a

1994
01:25:51,669 --> 01:25:49,440
waste disposal site and

1995
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:51,679
but i've got to figure out how we can

1996
01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:54,400
prove that to be the case or not

1997
01:26:00,149 --> 01:25:57,360
um so another possibility in the can of

1998
01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:00,159
worms of that story right

1999
01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:02,320
yeah uh

2000
01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:04,239
alien scientist got it good so we'll

2001
01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:06,800
have an alien scientist also

2002
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:08,880
in the truth seekers

2003
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:12,000
live chat or true seekers discord server

2004
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:13,920
we've got an alien scientist in the live

2005
01:26:18,070 --> 01:26:16,239
chat now

2006
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:18,080
james prepper says environmental

2007
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:19,920
watchdog

2008
01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:22,960
there you go yeah that's james prepper

2009
01:26:28,070 --> 01:26:25,679
uh who among other things uh interesting

2010
01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:28,080
character he is

2011
01:26:32,550 --> 01:26:30,880
look him up he's making a bible at this

2012
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:32,560
amazing bible we're trying to get him on

2013
01:26:35,430 --> 01:26:33,920
here as a guest

2014
01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:35,440
and um

2015
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:37,840
he's also environmental watchdog

2016
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:39,280
um

2017
01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:41,920
looking into a lot of environmental

2018
01:26:44,870 --> 01:26:43,440
things i didn't know how to term you i'm

2019
01:26:46,629 --> 01:26:44,880
sorry james

2020
01:26:48,709 --> 01:26:46,639
whatever title you prefer i will

2021
01:26:50,310 --> 01:26:48,719
certainly use in the future i just meant

2022
01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:50,320
how you're looking into all these

2023
01:26:54,550 --> 01:26:52,400
environmental sites and he looks into

2024
01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:54,560
polluted sites for the government

2025
01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:56,560
uh he and i were talking about

2026
01:27:00,470 --> 01:26:58,080
in my home

2027
01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:00,480
and where i live there is a an air force

2028
01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:03,120
base that polluted all the groundwater

2029
01:27:06,629 --> 01:27:04,400
with chemicals

2030
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:06,639
and they try to cover it up

2031
01:27:09,910 --> 01:27:08,320
um but

2032
01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:09,920
thanks to people like environmental

2033
01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:12,080
watchdogs they weren't able to

2034
01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:15,120
um yeah

2035
01:27:19,030 --> 01:27:16,800
alien scientists said so they stopped

2036
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:19,040
burning all the metal invisibility cloak

2037
01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:20,880
materials and open burn pits and started

2038
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:22,960
burning them in old mine shafts got it

2039
01:27:27,910 --> 01:27:25,760
hey jeremy it's a possibility it's as

2040
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:27,920
good a possibility as any i suppose

2041
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:29,040
right

2042
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:29,920
um

2043
01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:37,669
chris 77 is here and says i enjoy every

2044
01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:40,000
show as a delivery driver it keeps me

2045
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:41,920
entertained oh i did that for a while

2046
01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:43,760
you need good you need something good to

2047
01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:45,120
listen to while you're doing that for

2048
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,070
yeah

2049
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:53,669
now warrior it's awesome i'm still

2050
01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:55,280
trying to learn that yeah some people

2051
01:27:59,270 --> 01:27:57,679
it's not as too steep a learning curve

2052
01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:59,280
my advice to you is get on over to the

2053
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:01,120
discord server you'll have a good time

2054
01:28:05,669 --> 01:28:03,440
interacting with fellow truth seekers

2055
01:28:07,030 --> 01:28:05,679
fellow believers fellow skeptics all

2056
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:07,040
kinds of people that are into these

2057
01:28:12,629 --> 01:28:10,960
strange and wacky conspiracy land topics

2058
01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:12,639
basically it's a bunch of weirdos just

2059
01:28:15,590 --> 01:28:14,400
like you so if you're a weirdo and i

2060
01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:15,600
certainly am

2061
01:28:21,350 --> 01:28:18,719
uh head on over there um now and i want

2062
01:28:24,070 --> 01:28:21,360
to thank kind viewer i wore this today

2063
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:24,080
look it's my wings shirt uh

2064
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:26,880
from off man right um

2065
01:28:31,110 --> 01:28:28,639
somebody sent me a very nice gift

2066
01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:31,120
package today a friend of the show which

2067
01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:33,040
included this shirt so thank them very

2068
01:28:36,310 --> 01:28:34,800
much they know who they are

2069
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:36,320
um

2070
01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:44,870
spooky said i heard a myth about

2071
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:46,800
shirtless career mothman

2072
01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:48,400
that's gross

2073
01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:50,719
that girl jessica says freaks and geeks

2074
01:28:53,430 --> 01:28:52,000
my favorite

2075
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:53,440
i always hung out with the freaks and

2076
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:55,120
geeks they're they're the fun people

2077
01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:56,719
that girl jessica

2078
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:57,920
you know you don't want to hang out with

2079
01:29:00,310 --> 01:28:59,040
a bunch of football players and

2080
01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:00,320
cheerleaders you want to hang out with

2081
01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:02,960
the weird ones that's what i do right

2082
01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:05,920
that's definitely what i do

2083
01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:07,600
yes in the sixth sense is kindly sharing

2084
01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:11,040
bob lazar debunk websites compliments of

2085
01:29:14,070 --> 01:29:12,639
alien scientists a lot of great

2086
01:29:15,669 --> 01:29:14,080
information there if you're on the fence

2087
01:29:18,070 --> 01:29:15,679
about bob lazar especially i encourage

2088
01:29:19,990 --> 01:29:18,080
you to read that might really change

2089
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:20,000
your mind on the rise says there's a

2090
01:29:23,910 --> 01:29:21,840
similar concrete cap in the pacific

2091
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:23,920
where they tested the nuke so there you

2092
01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:27,440
go it's a it's a uh

2093
01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:30,159
it is a it is a definite possibility

2094
01:29:33,669 --> 01:29:32,159
that that could be

2095
01:29:36,229 --> 01:29:33,679
right

2096
01:29:38,149 --> 01:29:36,239
one time i've abducted my aliens is here

2097
01:29:39,669 --> 01:29:38,159
saying we love cambian and cambium for

2098
01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:39,679
president right yeah i don't want to

2099
01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:42,000
take the pay cut right

2100
01:29:45,590 --> 01:29:43,920
or i would do it right

2101
01:29:48,070 --> 01:29:45,600
now i'd be terrible at politics because

2102
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:48,080
i tell people generally what i think

2103
01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:50,080
right

2104
01:29:53,990 --> 01:29:51,600
by the way speaking of telling people

2105
01:29:55,030 --> 01:29:54,000
what i think there's been this you know

2106
01:29:57,430 --> 01:29:55,040
twitter

2107
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:57,440
storm of critics and

2108
01:30:01,750 --> 01:29:59,760
i'm gonna address it but not tonight but

2109
01:30:03,669 --> 01:30:01,760
what i will say about the chorus of

2110
01:30:06,310 --> 01:30:03,679
critics is that some people are so

2111
01:30:07,669 --> 01:30:06,320
easily fooled that it it's it's amazing

2112
01:30:10,390 --> 01:30:07,679
to me

2113
01:30:12,310 --> 01:30:10,400
there are nameless faceless people on

2114
01:30:14,070 --> 01:30:12,320
twitter and you know what i mean

2115
01:30:15,669 --> 01:30:14,080
somebody that you don't know

2116
01:30:17,750 --> 01:30:15,679
who they are because they're getting a

2117
01:30:19,990 --> 01:30:17,760
fake name and a fake profile picture

2118
01:30:21,189 --> 01:30:20,000
usually it's an alien or the anonymous

2119
01:30:24,070 --> 01:30:21,199
mask

2120
01:30:27,590 --> 01:30:24,080
and they want to stir up [\h__\h] turn

2121
01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:27,600
people against me so you know uh

2122
01:30:31,590 --> 01:30:29,520
some of this nonsense that's going on

2123
01:30:33,669 --> 01:30:31,600
i'm going to address it in another show

2124
01:30:37,270 --> 01:30:33,679
but what i will tell you is that before

2125
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:37,280
you uh hop on the bandwagon to crucify

2126
01:30:40,950 --> 01:30:38,400
me

2127
01:30:42,790 --> 01:30:40,960
know that the people a lot of these

2128
01:30:45,910 --> 01:30:42,800
nameless faceless twitter posts are

2129
01:30:47,990 --> 01:30:45,920
people that i have covered in the past

2130
01:30:49,669 --> 01:30:48,000
with their sock accounts trying to turn

2131
01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:49,679
people against me because they can't

2132
01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:51,040
argue with the facts or evidence i

2133
01:30:55,189 --> 01:30:53,040
presented about them and they get butt

2134
01:30:56,709 --> 01:30:55,199
hurt and they go either make a fake

2135
01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:56,719
account or they already had a fake

2136
01:31:01,189 --> 01:30:59,360
account why is it only nameless faceless

2137
01:31:03,510 --> 01:31:01,199
accounts to do this [\h__\h]

2138
01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:03,520
there's a reason for that friends so be

2139
01:31:05,510 --> 01:31:04,719
careful

2140
01:31:09,910 --> 01:31:05,520
when

2141
01:31:12,070 --> 01:31:09,920
nameless faceless people my name's out

2142
01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:12,080
there my face is out there and another

2143
01:31:16,390 --> 01:31:13,440
point i'd like to make about that

2144
01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:16,400
situation is my dms are open

2145
01:31:19,590 --> 01:31:17,920
if you got a problem with something that

2146
01:31:21,189 --> 01:31:19,600
i've done

2147
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:21,199
something that i've said

2148
01:31:26,629 --> 01:31:24,080
um feel free dm me talk about

2149
01:31:28,550 --> 01:31:26,639
i'll i've talked to anybody and here's

2150
01:31:31,750 --> 01:31:28,560
another thing there's some kind of uh

2151
01:31:34,229 --> 01:31:31,760
lack of standards here

2152
01:31:35,350 --> 01:31:34,239
show me a show host that replies as much

2153
01:31:36,550 --> 01:31:35,360
as i do

2154
01:31:38,229 --> 01:31:36,560
to people

2155
01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:38,239
i reply to almost everybody as long as

2156
01:31:42,310 --> 01:31:40,400
you're respectful to me when you ask me

2157
01:31:43,669 --> 01:31:42,320
a question or say something to me or

2158
01:31:45,189 --> 01:31:43,679
disagree with me

2159
01:31:47,830 --> 01:31:45,199
i reply

2160
01:31:49,189 --> 01:31:47,840
most other show hosts ignore all the

2161
01:31:51,910 --> 01:31:49,199
everybody especially somebody being

2162
01:31:54,470 --> 01:31:51,920
critical i'm open to any conversation

2163
01:31:56,950 --> 01:31:54,480
but i have a few rules the very

2164
01:31:59,110 --> 01:31:56,960
first rule is

2165
01:32:01,430 --> 01:31:59,120
no nameless faceless accounts if you

2166
01:32:04,149 --> 01:32:01,440
want to converse with me or have any

2167
01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:04,159
sort of dialogue or ask me a question

2168
01:32:08,470 --> 01:32:05,760
um

2169
01:32:10,070 --> 01:32:08,480
show me your face show me your name

2170
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:10,080
extend to me the same courtesy i'm

2171
01:32:14,629 --> 01:32:12,480
extending to you i need to know who i'm

2172
01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:14,639
talking about because at least in a few

2173
01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:17,520
of these cases we know for sure we've

2174
01:32:23,830 --> 01:32:19,920
got them dead to rights that it was

2175
01:32:25,990 --> 01:32:23,840
somebody masquerading as somebody else

2176
01:32:28,709 --> 01:32:26,000
that want to take shots at me and we

2177
01:32:31,510 --> 01:32:28,719
have proof that people have done that

2178
01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:31,520
so before you get all butt hurt hearing

2179
01:32:36,310 --> 01:32:34,320
some rumors or somebody spell nasty

2180
01:32:39,510 --> 01:32:36,320
nonsense about me

2181
01:32:42,149 --> 01:32:39,520
ask yourself this who is this person do

2182
01:32:43,830 --> 01:32:42,159
i know who they really are and if you

2183
01:32:45,990 --> 01:32:43,840
don't know who they really are because

2184
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:46,000
they're hiding their name in their face

2185
01:32:51,110 --> 01:32:48,400
that is not a good source of information

2186
01:32:52,790 --> 01:32:51,120
and they may just have ulterior motives

2187
01:32:54,390 --> 01:32:52,800
right

2188
01:32:56,149 --> 01:32:54,400
on their eyes mentioning stephen does

2189
01:32:57,990 --> 01:32:56,159
respond we talk daily i try to

2190
01:33:00,629 --> 01:32:58,000
communicate with as many people as i

2191
01:33:02,390 --> 01:33:00,639
possibly can but at some point i have to

2192
01:33:04,390 --> 01:33:02,400
say i'm not going to communicate with

2193
01:33:05,750 --> 01:33:04,400
somebody who's hiding their name and

2194
01:33:06,790 --> 01:33:05,760
their face

2195
01:33:08,950 --> 01:33:06,800
right

2196
01:33:11,189 --> 01:33:08,960
and in the past i have and it's always

2197
01:33:13,350 --> 01:33:11,199
turned out in one case it turned out to

2198
01:33:15,510 --> 01:33:13,360
be mikey horn from the billy meyer ufo

2199
01:33:17,750 --> 01:33:15,520
call and we have proof of that

2200
01:33:19,750 --> 01:33:17,760
we have absolute proof that mikey horn

2201
01:33:23,030 --> 01:33:19,760
has masqueraded as some nameless

2202
01:33:25,270 --> 01:33:23,040
faceless twitter account and try to stir

2203
01:33:26,629 --> 01:33:25,280
up trouble and start [\h__\h] and get people

2204
01:33:28,790 --> 01:33:26,639
turned against me

2205
01:33:31,430 --> 01:33:28,800
because you can't argue with anything i

2206
01:33:33,189 --> 01:33:31,440
presented about is billy meyer nonsense

2207
01:33:34,149 --> 01:33:33,199
or his ufo code

2208
01:33:36,310 --> 01:33:34,159
right

2209
01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:36,320
so what does he do well we've got to go

2210
01:33:39,510 --> 01:33:38,480
through everything that stephen campion

2211
01:33:42,149 --> 01:33:39,520
ever said

2212
01:33:43,990 --> 01:33:42,159
everything stephen campion ever did and

2213
01:33:45,189 --> 01:33:44,000
try to find things that we can use to

2214
01:33:47,270 --> 01:33:45,199
turn people

2215
01:33:48,629 --> 01:33:47,280
against him and that's what he does and

2216
01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:48,639
that's what he did and he does the same

2217
01:33:52,709 --> 01:33:50,800
thing to kalkwarf and he does he did the

2218
01:33:55,110 --> 01:33:52,719
same thing the rich from goof on anybody

2219
01:33:57,990 --> 01:33:55,120
critical of him he goes on those fake

2220
01:34:00,149 --> 01:33:58,000
counts and starts [\h__\h]

2221
01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:00,159
so you you have to know

2222
01:34:03,669 --> 01:34:02,080
that if you don't know who's making

2223
01:34:05,110 --> 01:34:03,679
these claims

2224
01:34:07,270 --> 01:34:05,120
or you know

2225
01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:07,280
stirring up this [\h__\h] trying to stir the

2226
01:34:10,070 --> 01:34:09,360
[\h__\h] pot and get people turned against

2227
01:34:13,110 --> 01:34:10,080
me

2228
01:34:16,149 --> 01:34:13,120
they may have an ulterior motive really

2229
01:34:18,310 --> 01:34:16,159
really you're oh you were so incensed by

2230
01:34:20,310 --> 01:34:18,320
a guest i had that i didn't you don't

2231
01:34:21,990 --> 01:34:20,320
think i asked this question or that

2232
01:34:25,030 --> 01:34:22,000
question to that you're going to take to

2233
01:34:26,229 --> 01:34:25,040
twitter and call me a fraud or or some

2234
01:34:28,790 --> 01:34:26,239
nonsense

2235
01:34:30,229 --> 01:34:28,800
[\h__\h] [\h__\h] nobody is that

2236
01:34:34,310 --> 01:34:30,239
incensed

2237
01:34:36,070 --> 01:34:34,320
that upset that you know oh i have such

2238
01:34:37,750 --> 01:34:36,080
righteous indignation because stephen

2239
01:34:38,950 --> 01:34:37,760
camby and had a guest i don't like that

2240
01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:38,960
i'm going to take to twitter and tell

2241
01:34:44,229 --> 01:34:41,760
everybody that he's a fraud

2242
01:34:46,709 --> 01:34:44,239
it's [\h__\h] friends it's [\h__\h] and

2243
01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:46,719
you're stupid if you believe a nameless

2244
01:34:51,030 --> 01:34:49,199
faceless person right and i'll tell my

2245
01:34:53,510 --> 01:34:51,040
side of these stories because it's

2246
01:34:55,350 --> 01:34:53,520
nothing burger nonsense and the final

2247
01:34:57,430 --> 01:34:55,360
point i would like to make is that i've

2248
01:35:01,109 --> 01:34:57,440
been doing a show in one form or another

2249
01:35:03,350 --> 01:35:01,119
for six or going on seven years now

2250
01:35:05,270 --> 01:35:03,360
and if you combine all of the content

2251
01:35:07,830 --> 01:35:05,280
that i have created you know we've

2252
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:07,840
passed 400 live shows here there's a

2253
01:35:12,310 --> 01:35:10,320
thousand hours of truth seekers a

2254
01:35:13,350 --> 01:35:12,320
thousand hours

2255
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:13,360
so

2256
01:35:17,990 --> 01:35:15,920
if you're that intent on getting people

2257
01:35:20,390 --> 01:35:18,000
to dislike me or not watch my show

2258
01:35:22,310 --> 01:35:20,400
anymore or turn people against me you've

2259
01:35:23,830 --> 01:35:22,320
got a thousand hours of content that you

2260
01:35:26,149 --> 01:35:23,840
could sit through and try to find

2261
01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:26,159
something i said something i did some

2262
01:35:30,070 --> 01:35:28,239
guest you didn't like some guests you

2263
01:35:31,669 --> 01:35:30,080
don't think i asked enough hard

2264
01:35:35,669 --> 01:35:31,679
questions to

2265
01:35:37,750 --> 01:35:35,679
to try to attack me with nobody that is

2266
01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:37,760
launching these attacks has a thousand

2267
01:35:41,350 --> 01:35:40,480
hours of content that i can look through

2268
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:41,360
so

2269
01:35:46,310 --> 01:35:44,960
walked a mile in their shoes

2270
01:35:48,550 --> 01:35:46,320
am i going to have guests that some

2271
01:35:51,830 --> 01:35:48,560
people don't like god damn right i am i

2272
01:35:52,950 --> 01:35:51,840
have i have right and and especially a

2273
01:35:54,870 --> 01:35:52,960
few of them

2274
01:35:56,149 --> 01:35:54,880
oh boy

2275
01:35:57,750 --> 01:35:56,159
there are a few guests that i've had

2276
01:36:00,629 --> 01:35:57,760
that i've gotten

2277
01:36:03,109 --> 01:36:00,639
viciously attacked for six months

2278
01:36:05,189 --> 01:36:03,119
because i dared to have that guest

2279
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:05,199
and what was the issue the issue was the

2280
01:36:11,510 --> 01:36:08,159
guest that i had was exposing

2281
01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:11,520
a nefarious ufo cult for being frauds

2282
01:36:16,870 --> 01:36:14,320
liars and money grubbing [\h__\h]

2283
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:16,880
right and all that guy's evidence was

2284
01:36:21,910 --> 01:36:20,000
absolutely impeccable nobody could argue

2285
01:36:22,629 --> 01:36:21,920
with that guy's evidence so what do they

2286
01:36:25,030 --> 01:36:22,639
do

2287
01:36:28,709 --> 01:36:25,040
well we're gonna we're gonna send

2288
01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:28,719
25 or 50 fake accounts to constantly

2289
01:36:32,709 --> 01:36:30,960
email you 24 7

2290
01:36:35,350 --> 01:36:32,719
for six months

2291
01:36:37,109 --> 01:36:35,360
telling you what an [\h__\h] that guy is

2292
01:36:39,350 --> 01:36:37,119
right and i have to take those slings

2293
01:36:41,030 --> 01:36:39,360
and arrows because i made the decision

2294
01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:41,040
to have that guest and by the way i

2295
01:36:46,070 --> 01:36:43,360
stand by that guest's research and

2296
01:36:48,229 --> 01:36:46,080
everything they said about that ufo call

2297
01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:48,239
my point is that

2298
01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:50,159
nameless faceless people on the internet

2299
01:36:53,669 --> 01:36:52,159
you certainly can't trust my name is out

2300
01:36:55,590 --> 01:36:53,679
there my face is out there if you have a

2301
01:36:56,629 --> 01:36:55,600
question dm me

2302
01:36:58,870 --> 01:36:56,639
right

2303
01:37:00,709 --> 01:36:58,880
and uh i will answer as long as you're

2304
01:37:02,550 --> 01:37:00,719
respectful but

2305
01:37:04,830 --> 01:37:02,560
starting twitter threads about what a

2306
01:37:08,950 --> 01:37:04,840
fraud i am and here's another

2307
01:37:10,550 --> 01:37:08,960
issue you know oh uh he he exposes other

2308
01:37:12,950 --> 01:37:10,560
people but then he has this fraud or

2309
01:37:14,070 --> 01:37:12,960
that fraud well that's your opinion you

2310
01:37:17,030 --> 01:37:14,080
know

2311
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:17,040
and we are certainly going to have

2312
01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:18,400
we are certainly going to have

2313
01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:20,960
controversial figures here

2314
01:37:26,790 --> 01:37:23,440
everybody involved in these strange

2315
01:37:29,910 --> 01:37:26,800
topics is somewhat controversial and

2316
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:29,920
another thing i love is that

2317
01:37:35,669 --> 01:37:33,119
ask any show host you cannot possibly

2318
01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:35,679
know everything that a guest of yours

2319
01:37:39,910 --> 01:37:37,840
ever said for their entire life in their

2320
01:37:41,590 --> 01:37:39,920
entire history and some of these clowns

2321
01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:41,600
go back to something somebody said 20

2322
01:37:46,390 --> 01:37:44,719
years ago and go see see

2323
01:37:48,629 --> 01:37:46,400
i didn't know he said that's 20 years

2324
01:37:50,790 --> 01:37:48,639
ago that guest wasn't here to talk about

2325
01:37:52,790 --> 01:37:50,800
what he said 20 years ago he was here to

2326
01:37:55,510 --> 01:37:52,800
talk about his book which i happen to

2327
01:37:56,950 --> 01:37:55,520
like so sorry not sorry i hosted him and

2328
01:37:58,470 --> 01:37:56,960
the other thing is

2329
01:38:01,830 --> 01:37:58,480
these people are going to attack me for

2330
01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:01,840
having certain guests it's so stupid

2331
01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:04,080
listen i've said it a hundred times ask

2332
01:38:07,830 --> 01:38:05,600
any show host

2333
01:38:10,870 --> 01:38:07,840
what they what they are trying to imply

2334
01:38:12,310 --> 01:38:10,880
is that if any show host including me

2335
01:38:14,629 --> 01:38:12,320
hosts a guest

2336
01:38:17,189 --> 01:38:14,639
then that means that that show host

2337
01:38:18,870 --> 01:38:17,199
agrees 100

2338
01:38:21,910 --> 01:38:18,880
with that guest

2339
01:38:24,149 --> 01:38:21,920
not only with 100 agrees with the guest

2340
01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:24,159
but agrees 100 percent

2341
01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:26,080
that everything the guest has ever said

2342
01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:28,080
has been truthful honest

2343
01:38:33,030 --> 01:38:29,520
morally okay

2344
01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:33,040
and responsible or whatever to imply

2345
01:38:38,310 --> 01:38:36,320
that a show host agrees 100

2346
01:38:41,510 --> 01:38:38,320
with everything

2347
01:38:42,870 --> 01:38:41,520
a guest has ever said is childish stupid

2348
01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:42,880
and ridiculous

2349
01:38:47,189 --> 01:38:44,400
but this is what these people have to

2350
01:38:48,470 --> 01:38:47,199
imply because some guy said something 20

2351
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:48,480
years ago

2352
01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:49,440
right

2353
01:38:54,870 --> 01:38:52,560
it's so stupid silly nonsense childish

2354
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:54,880
what are you in grade school don't don't

2355
01:38:59,830 --> 01:38:56,800
hang out with him he hangs out with the

2356
01:39:01,350 --> 01:38:59,840
stinky kid it's so childish and

2357
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:01,360
nonsensical

2358
01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:02,560
and again

2359
01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:04,800
my policy is if you're a nameless

2360
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:06,960
faceless person on the internet i'm not

2361
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:08,400
talking to you

2362
01:39:13,109 --> 01:39:10,800
do me the same respect that i give you

2363
01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:13,119
here's my name here's my face i've given

2364
01:39:16,870 --> 01:39:15,280
people my cell phone my cell phone

2365
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:16,880
number is after i get strange weird

2366
01:39:20,709 --> 01:39:18,719
calls once in a while from somebody who

2367
01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:20,719
wants to be a guest or something i'm an

2368
01:39:24,950 --> 01:39:21,840
open book

2369
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:24,960
but to imply that you're going to be oh

2370
01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:27,040
he had this other show host on and that

2371
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:29,840
guy's a fraud and again no proof that

2372
01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:32,400
guy's a fraud but just oh he had that

2373
01:39:34,950 --> 01:39:34,159
show host on his show

2374
01:39:36,870 --> 01:39:34,960
so

2375
01:39:38,870 --> 01:39:36,880
he can't be trusted

2376
01:39:41,030 --> 01:39:38,880
attack my research

2377
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:41,040
attack the facts and evidence i bring

2378
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:44,880
they never do they never do they never

2379
01:39:50,229 --> 01:39:45,760
never

2380
01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:50,239
facts the evidence and the research that

2381
01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:52,560
i bring to these stories they attack me

2382
01:39:56,870 --> 01:39:54,480
personally they call me a fraud because

2383
01:39:59,030 --> 01:39:56,880
i had some guests they don't like or

2384
01:40:02,149 --> 01:39:59,040
they call me a fraud for some reason oh

2385
01:40:04,709 --> 01:40:02,159
he had that guest so he has no right to

2386
01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:04,719
speak on these other frauds because he

2387
01:40:09,669 --> 01:40:06,960
had this other guest that i think said

2388
01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:09,679
something that wasn't right or factual

2389
01:40:18,950 --> 01:40:12,480
20 years ago it's nonsensical it's

2390
01:40:22,310 --> 01:40:20,709
yeah glitch loop says these people

2391
01:40:24,149 --> 01:40:22,320
aren't researchers more like counter

2392
01:40:26,149 --> 01:40:24,159
intelligence and frauds yeah why is it

2393
01:40:30,629 --> 01:40:26,159
always nameless faceless accounts with

2394
01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:30,639
alien pictures right or the anonymous

2395
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:33,440
mask the guy folks mask every one of

2396
01:40:35,830 --> 01:40:34,159
them

2397
01:40:37,669 --> 01:40:35,840
right but the problem is that that

2398
01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:37,679
normal people see these posts and they

2399
01:40:42,229 --> 01:40:39,760
don't know better they don't realize

2400
01:40:44,149 --> 01:40:42,239
that there may be an ulterior motive for

2401
01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:44,159
somebody to put a mask on on the

2402
01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:49,750
and if you're dumb enough to believe a

2403
01:40:55,109 --> 01:40:52,800
nameless fate list i am who i i'm right

2404
01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:55,119
here my name's out there my face is out

2405
01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:58,159
there i'm i'm who i am

2406
01:41:02,790 --> 01:41:00,480
who is that person that's saying this

2407
01:41:04,709 --> 01:41:02,800
[\h__\h] do you even know who that is do you

2408
01:41:07,030 --> 01:41:04,719
know that could be somebody that i

2409
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:07,040
exposed as a grifter con artist

2410
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:08,960
fraudster that's trying to get back on

2411
01:41:14,149 --> 01:41:11,760
me at me is that so out there to believe

2412
01:41:16,830 --> 01:41:14,159
that that's a possibility here of course

2413
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:16,840
not but some of these it's just herd

2414
01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:19,040
mentality right it's they're like

2415
01:41:23,189 --> 01:41:20,480
sheeple

2416
01:41:25,430 --> 01:41:23,199
right oh this guy said it must be true

2417
01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:25,440
damn steve steve campions exposed all

2418
01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:29,040
these frauds liars con artists grifters

2419
01:41:33,109 --> 01:41:30,719
taking advantage of people for six or

2420
01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:33,119
seven years now but he had this one guy

2421
01:41:37,109 --> 01:41:35,199
on that said something 20 years ago so

2422
01:41:39,430 --> 01:41:37,119
steve campion must be a bad guy and we

2423
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:39,440
can't trust his research nobody attacks

2424
01:41:44,070 --> 01:41:41,440
the research nobody proves that my

2425
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:44,080
research is wrong nobody

2426
01:41:49,510 --> 01:41:46,880
so far they never attack the work that i

2427
01:41:52,550 --> 01:41:49,520
do here they attack me as a person or

2428
01:41:55,030 --> 01:41:52,560
try to paint me as a hypocrite good good

2429
01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:55,040
or good on you good luck with that

2430
01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:57,040
right and the other thing is an issue of

2431
01:42:01,669 --> 01:41:59,520
time i'm not going to waste time i used

2432
01:42:03,590 --> 01:42:01,679
to you know some nameless faceless guy

2433
01:42:05,189 --> 01:42:03,600
was like steve campbell and your show

2434
01:42:07,109 --> 01:42:05,199
sucks because you had this guest on and

2435
01:42:09,189 --> 01:42:07,119
he said that i used to argue with them

2436
01:42:11,350 --> 01:42:09,199
and then i realized

2437
01:42:13,350 --> 01:42:11,360
why am i going to spend hours of my life

2438
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:13,360
every week arguing with somebody and i

2439
01:42:15,990 --> 01:42:15,040
don't even know who they are

2440
01:42:17,750 --> 01:42:16,000
really

2441
01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:17,760
right for all i know they could be

2442
01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:19,600
anybody

2443
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:21,280
why am i going to waste

2444
01:42:26,550 --> 01:42:22,880
hours of my week

2445
01:42:28,550 --> 01:42:26,560
every week listening to that now again

2446
01:42:30,629 --> 01:42:28,560
the good people that listen to our show

2447
01:42:32,629 --> 01:42:30,639
know that i'm very approachable on my

2448
01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:32,639
open book if you disagree with something

2449
01:42:36,950 --> 01:42:35,040
hey let's have a discussion about it why

2450
01:42:39,189 --> 01:42:36,960
why do you disagree with me let me hear

2451
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:39,199
you out and and i'll tell you what i

2452
01:42:43,750 --> 01:42:42,480
think and i'm very open like that but to

2453
01:42:46,149 --> 01:42:43,760
just come attacking me with this

2454
01:42:47,990 --> 01:42:46,159
nonsense i'm i'm you're not going to get

2455
01:42:49,669 --> 01:42:48,000
my attention and see

2456
01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:49,679
part of me realize lately that that's

2457
01:42:54,550 --> 01:42:51,360
what they want they like that back and

2458
01:42:56,950 --> 01:42:54,560
forth there's some loser armchair idiot

2459
01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:56,960
that thinks they know or thinks they can

2460
01:43:01,669 --> 01:42:59,040
run a better show that's another thing i

2461
01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:01,679
love it i love it listen if you don't

2462
01:43:06,709 --> 01:43:04,639
like my show first of all suck a dick

2463
01:43:09,030 --> 01:43:06,719
you know just get right down on it

2464
01:43:11,350 --> 01:43:09,040
though get right down on it

2465
01:43:13,109 --> 01:43:11,360
slurp it up right

2466
01:43:14,709 --> 01:43:13,119
eat that [\h__\h]

2467
01:43:16,470 --> 01:43:14,719
because i don't care if you don't like

2468
01:43:19,030 --> 01:43:16,480
it i do the show for the people that do

2469
01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:19,040
like it and for myself

2470
01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:21,040
and second of all

2471
01:43:24,709 --> 01:43:23,520
it's always the guy who won't step in

2472
01:43:26,629 --> 01:43:24,719
the arena

2473
01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:26,639
that's going to tell the gladiator what

2474
01:43:30,550 --> 01:43:29,280
he's doing wrong i'm here i show up

2475
01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:30,560
every day

2476
01:43:33,830 --> 01:43:32,000
right

2477
01:43:35,830 --> 01:43:33,840
and i've got the blood sweat and tears

2478
01:43:38,229 --> 01:43:35,840
and the passion in this fight

2479
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:38,239
i'm here every day these armchair

2480
01:43:42,149 --> 01:43:40,080
[\h__\h] that never did anything in

2481
01:43:44,550 --> 01:43:42,159
their life telling me everything i'm

2482
01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:44,560
doing wrong is comical

2483
01:43:49,109 --> 01:43:46,239
if people don't realize that it's a

2484
01:43:51,590 --> 01:43:49,119
jealous prick loser living in his mom's

2485
01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:51,600
basement that's better because i'm doing

2486
01:43:55,590 --> 01:43:54,000
great i'm doing great here we're doing

2487
01:43:57,350 --> 01:43:55,600
great here

2488
01:43:59,750 --> 01:43:57,360
and we continue to do better and better

2489
01:44:02,149 --> 01:43:59,760
and better and maybe just maybe some of

2490
01:44:04,790 --> 01:44:02,159
these people are just jealous pricks

2491
01:44:07,910 --> 01:44:06,310
but people don't consider that they just

2492
01:44:10,390 --> 01:44:07,920
hear the [\h__\h] talking and they want to

2493
01:44:13,189 --> 01:44:10,400
pile on and it is what it is and it's

2494
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:13,199
okay i'm good with it you know i am at

2495
01:44:18,149 --> 01:44:15,679
total peace we do good work here on the

2496
01:44:21,350 --> 01:44:18,159
show and anybody that disagrees you're

2497
01:44:24,790 --> 01:44:21,360
free to disagree but my thing is go do

2498
01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:24,800
your own show right go walk a mile

2499
01:44:30,709 --> 01:44:28,480
right go do an hour show go do it once

2500
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:30,719
and then come back here and tell me how

2501
01:44:34,790 --> 01:44:33,199
shitty i am at doing this

2502
01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:34,800
and maybe just maybe you'll get an

2503
01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:36,880
education that i'm walking a hard road

2504
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:38,560
here i'm not always going to make the

2505
01:44:44,229 --> 01:44:41,920
right decisions i may veer off into the

2506
01:44:46,070 --> 01:44:44,239
wrong road i might hit a crossroads and

2507
01:44:47,910 --> 01:44:46,080
make the wrong decision i might flip a

2508
01:44:50,390 --> 01:44:47,920
coin and say what's the right thing to

2509
01:44:51,910 --> 01:44:50,400
do here and i might pick the wrong path

2510
01:44:53,590 --> 01:44:51,920
but i will always be honest with my

2511
01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:53,600
audience and own up to it if i make a

2512
01:44:58,629 --> 01:44:56,639
mistake i tell you right i i freely

2513
01:45:01,270 --> 01:44:58,639
admit i've made some mistakes along this

2514
01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:01,280
journey but we have produced

2515
01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:03,520
more than a thousand hours of content

2516
01:45:07,750 --> 01:45:05,600
here so if you're really looking for

2517
01:45:09,430 --> 01:45:07,760
something to slag me on you're gonna

2518
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:09,440
find it and if you're gonna find

2519
01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:12,159
something to to try to make me look like

2520
01:45:16,310 --> 01:45:13,760
the bad guy in a thousand hours of

2521
01:45:17,830 --> 01:45:16,320
content but until you have a thousand

2522
01:45:19,510 --> 01:45:17,840
hours of content that i could do the

2523
01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:19,520
same thing with

2524
01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:21,760
then this argument is

2525
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:23,920
garbage this is apples and oranges you

2526
01:45:28,629 --> 01:45:26,239
can't compare me with somebody that has

2527
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:28,639
no work to show the public

2528
01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:31,119
right and isn't it interesting that i've

2529
01:45:37,510 --> 01:45:33,920
never ever had a show host doing better

2530
01:45:39,430 --> 01:45:37,520
than me that will slag my show never not

2531
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:39,440
once

2532
01:45:42,790 --> 01:45:41,520
it's always somebody that either hasn't

2533
01:45:45,189 --> 01:45:42,800
done a show

2534
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:45,199
and probably wants to and is jealous

2535
01:45:50,470 --> 01:45:48,000
somehow or somebody that tried to do a

2536
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:50,480
show and failed miserably that comes and

2537
01:45:54,870 --> 01:45:52,960
attacks me or like i said nameless

2538
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:54,880
faceless armchair

2539
01:45:59,430 --> 01:45:57,280
right click researchers on you on

2540
01:46:02,149 --> 01:45:59,440
twitter that don't have a show that

2541
01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:02,159
aren't out there right you go try it bro

2542
01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:04,000
you go be out there in the public for a

2543
01:46:08,709 --> 01:46:06,400
few hours every day of your life it

2544
01:46:10,830 --> 01:46:08,719
ain't easy bro and again i'm gonna make

2545
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:10,840
mistakes i'm human

2546
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:15,280
right to suggest however that all of the

2547
01:46:18,629 --> 01:46:16,480
work

2548
01:46:21,270 --> 01:46:18,639
that we have done here

2549
01:46:23,910 --> 01:46:21,280
can be just washed aside as not relevant

2550
01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:23,920
because i made one mistake two mistakes

2551
01:46:27,350 --> 01:46:25,840
three mistakes how many do i get

2552
01:46:29,350 --> 01:46:27,360
especially mistakes that i've owned up

2553
01:46:31,990 --> 01:46:29,360
to or apologized for certainly made

2554
01:46:33,430 --> 01:46:32,000
mistakes here and i've apologized for a

2555
01:46:35,189 --> 01:46:33,440
few of them i've told my audience the

2556
01:46:37,750 --> 01:46:35,199
truth like yeah that was i made a bad

2557
01:46:40,550 --> 01:46:37,760
call right or in a few cases i've said

2558
01:46:43,189 --> 01:46:40,560
i've lost my objectivity on them so i

2559
01:46:45,030 --> 01:46:43,199
can't you know like uh there's a few

2560
01:46:47,430 --> 01:46:45,040
people that i just became too friendly

2561
01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:47,440
with and i say i can't

2562
01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:50,239
i'm not a good judge of their of their

2563
01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:52,880
material anymore because i lost my i

2564
01:47:00,310 --> 01:46:54,400
became impartial

2565
01:47:04,390 --> 01:47:02,310
v is here long time no see and says this

2566
01:47:05,510 --> 01:47:04,400
is true can be admitted when he has been

2567
01:47:08,550 --> 01:47:05,520
dead wrong

2568
01:47:09,430 --> 01:47:08,560
well that's the mark of a real man uh

2569
01:47:11,430 --> 01:47:09,440
you know

2570
01:47:13,430 --> 01:47:11,440
a real man admits when he's wrong and

2571
01:47:15,830 --> 01:47:13,440
apologizes sincerely for it and i

2572
01:47:17,430 --> 01:47:15,840
learned that from my wife

2573
01:47:18,950 --> 01:47:17,440
you got man if you're going to live with

2574
01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:18,960
a woman you got to learn to say i'm

2575
01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:21,520
sorry when you screw up and i'm i'm a

2576
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:23,920
human i screw up a lot i'm

2577
01:47:28,149 --> 01:47:26,159
and it doesn't help too in my case to be

2578
01:47:30,470 --> 01:47:28,159
that my wife is like mother teresa she's

2579
01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:30,480
like a saint all the stuff she does for

2580
01:47:34,470 --> 01:47:32,400
our family and these kids and i'm always

2581
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:34,480
trying to play ketchup and not be such a

2582
01:47:39,669 --> 01:47:37,199
sloucher right but

2583
01:47:41,990 --> 01:47:39,679
uh yeah so that's where we're at with

2584
01:47:44,390 --> 01:47:42,000
this course of critics

2585
01:47:46,470 --> 01:47:44,400
i would invite people you know if so if

2586
01:47:48,790 --> 01:47:46,480
you see somebody posting something and

2587
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:48,800
you're unsure is that true did steve do

2588
01:47:51,669 --> 01:47:50,880
that steve a bad guy because he had this

2589
01:47:54,629 --> 01:47:51,679
guest

2590
01:47:56,470 --> 01:47:54,639
dm me on twitter talk to me come in my

2591
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:56,480
live chat you can ask and that's another

2592
01:48:01,350 --> 01:47:59,119
thing we don't have an echo chamber here

2593
01:48:03,430 --> 01:48:01,360
we have a live chat that does not censor

2594
01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:03,440
people's views if somebody disagrees

2595
01:48:07,750 --> 01:48:05,040
with me

2596
01:48:09,350 --> 01:48:07,760
we let him we let him here and people

2597
01:48:10,790 --> 01:48:09,360
can uh

2598
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:10,800
people can

2599
01:48:14,390 --> 01:48:12,320
make whatever decision they want to make

2600
01:48:16,070 --> 01:48:14,400
though you know i'm done trying to

2601
01:48:18,149 --> 01:48:16,080
defend my

2602
01:48:21,270 --> 01:48:18,159
integrity i think you can look at my

2603
01:48:23,750 --> 01:48:21,280
history and see my integrity

2604
01:48:25,830 --> 01:48:23,760
and and or let's say my attempt at

2605
01:48:28,709 --> 01:48:25,840
having integrity right i'm still trying

2606
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:28,719
to have integrity this is not this is a

2607
01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:30,960
tough place to try to be

2608
01:48:35,910 --> 01:48:33,199
morally and ethically correct as much as

2609
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:35,920
possible in because we can see perfect

2610
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:37,679
examples the people that do the best in

2611
01:48:41,350 --> 01:48:39,520
this or the liars the frauds the con

2612
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:41,360
artists they're the ones that succeed

2613
01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:43,040
and make all the money the people who

2614
01:48:45,990 --> 01:48:44,320
are trying to be honest with the

2615
01:48:48,229 --> 01:48:46,000
audience the people who are giving you

2616
01:48:50,709 --> 01:48:48,239
both sides of the story both the skeptic

2617
01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:50,719
side and the believer's side

2618
01:48:57,350 --> 01:48:53,760
just don't do as well right

2619
01:48:59,430 --> 01:48:57,360
ck benzoa benzona is here first time

2620
01:49:00,550 --> 01:48:59,440
commenter welcome to the live chat glad

2621
01:49:02,390 --> 01:49:00,560
to see you here i'm glad that you

2622
01:49:04,550 --> 01:49:02,400
finally felt comfortable enough to

2623
01:49:06,629 --> 01:49:04,560
comment says i'm a lurker here like the

2624
01:49:08,870 --> 01:49:06,639
content and interaction keep rocking the

2625
01:49:10,950 --> 01:49:08,880
edge of the universe thank you for your

2626
01:49:12,310 --> 01:49:10,960
kindness and your your support we

2627
01:49:14,550 --> 01:49:12,320
appreciate it

2628
01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:14,560
ryan evans says but you ban mouth ever

2629
01:49:18,229 --> 01:49:16,719
others you get personal on people when

2630
01:49:20,790 --> 01:49:18,239
they differ from you

2631
01:49:22,550 --> 01:49:20,800
and not really uh you know i try to

2632
01:49:24,550 --> 01:49:22,560
stick to the facts sometimes i get

2633
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:24,560
passionate and personal ryan i'm not

2634
01:49:28,390 --> 01:49:26,800
sure what exactly you're referring to

2635
01:49:30,390 --> 01:49:28,400
but uh

2636
01:49:33,750 --> 01:49:30,400
you know i'll try to do better

2637
01:49:35,589 --> 01:49:33,760
you know brian i'm trying right i uh i

2638
01:49:37,750 --> 01:49:35,599
said i'm gonna try to be kinder gentler

2639
01:49:39,589 --> 01:49:37,760
and more diplomatic but sometimes the

2640
01:49:42,229 --> 01:49:39,599
facts are the facts and sometimes facts

2641
01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:42,239
piss me off and i get emotional when i

2642
01:49:45,350 --> 01:49:44,000
think about all the people that some of

2643
01:49:48,149 --> 01:49:45,360
the people we've covered here are

2644
01:49:50,229 --> 01:49:48,159
ripping off for money and many of them

2645
01:49:53,109 --> 01:49:50,239
have mental problems many of them are on

2646
01:49:55,270 --> 01:49:53,119
you know ssi disability i get angry i

2647
01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:55,280
get pissed off i'm working on it i'm a

2648
01:50:00,790 --> 01:49:58,159
work in progress ryan but i i recognize

2649
01:50:02,629 --> 01:50:00,800
uh i recognize my faults

2650
01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:02,639
and i recognize that other people see

2651
01:50:05,990 --> 01:50:05,040
some of my faults maybe more than i do

2652
01:50:07,910 --> 01:50:06,000
you know

2653
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:07,920
i mean it's it's easy

2654
01:50:12,390 --> 01:50:10,080
to not see your faults when you're the

2655
01:50:14,629 --> 01:50:12,400
one faulting right

2656
01:50:15,990 --> 01:50:14,639
but i trust that uh the audience here

2657
01:50:18,070 --> 01:50:16,000
has checked me there's a few people in

2658
01:50:20,229 --> 01:50:18,080
the live chat that put me in check and

2659
01:50:22,870 --> 01:50:20,239
what do i mean

2660
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:22,880
good people when you're doing wrong

2661
01:50:26,709 --> 01:50:25,119
they'll put you in check and they'll say

2662
01:50:29,030 --> 01:50:26,719
you gotta stop and think about what

2663
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,040
you're doing here it's not right and i

2664
01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:31,119
appreciate people like that i want

2665
01:50:42,070 --> 01:50:40,149
pragmatic says no need to get personal

2666
01:50:45,030 --> 01:50:42,080
with some streamers say a lot of crap

2667
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:45,040
off their dome doesn't make it absolute

2668
01:50:50,790 --> 01:50:47,119
uh that

2669
01:50:52,390 --> 01:50:50,800
goes always me included yeah i think uh

2670
01:50:55,270 --> 01:50:52,400
pragmatics over there having a

2671
01:50:56,229 --> 01:50:55,280
critiquing cambian show once in a while

2672
01:50:59,189 --> 01:50:56,239
i'm gonna

2673
01:51:01,350 --> 01:50:59,199
no

2674
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:01,360
he's a friend of the show but i get his

2675
01:51:04,470 --> 01:51:02,800
point right

2676
01:51:05,750 --> 01:51:04,480
uh some

2677
01:51:07,669 --> 01:51:05,760
some

2678
01:51:08,950 --> 01:51:07,679
shows are just about tearing people down

2679
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:08,960
and mine was

2680
01:51:14,149 --> 01:51:10,880
and is sometimes we're we're here

2681
01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:14,159
tearing people down but that is is first

2682
01:51:16,950 --> 01:51:15,760
of all it's not sustainable and second

2683
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:16,960
of all it's not

2684
01:51:21,669 --> 01:51:18,960
it's the low-hanging fruit

2685
01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:21,679
and uh you know i've said it before i've

2686
01:51:26,629 --> 01:51:24,320
said it a hundred times it's easy for me

2687
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:26,639
to tell you what i don't believe it's

2688
01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:28,639
very difficult for me to

2689
01:51:33,589 --> 01:51:30,960
share with you what i do believe

2690
01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:33,599
now these stories that we've shared

2691
01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:36,000
this week

2692
01:51:42,229 --> 01:51:37,360
i believe there's something to these

2693
01:51:45,589 --> 01:51:43,830
explanations that they're not

2694
01:51:47,669 --> 01:51:45,599
extraordinary

2695
01:51:50,550 --> 01:51:47,679
mothman bermuda triangle and the

2696
01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:50,560
chupacabra mystery are great mysteries

2697
01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:51,920
i believe there's something to all three

2698
01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:53,520
of them more

2699
01:51:57,350 --> 01:51:55,440
that may be more than natural

2700
01:52:04,670 --> 01:51:57,360
explanation

2701
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:09,830
[Music]

2702
01:52:12,709 --> 01:52:11,270
dan hogan

2703
01:52:14,390 --> 01:52:12,719
do you want to do a follow-up interview

2704
01:52:16,950 --> 01:52:14,400
with anjali

2705
01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:16,960
now that her timeline is up no

2706
01:52:21,350 --> 01:52:18,719
oh and that's another thing people are

2707
01:52:23,270 --> 01:52:21,360
slagging me for on twitter saying that i

2708
01:52:25,430 --> 01:52:23,280
uh didn't kind of back room deal with

2709
01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:25,440
her to get an exclusive interview first

2710
01:52:28,550 --> 01:52:26,320
of all

2711
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:28,560
it's absolutely ridiculous that i would

2712
01:52:31,510 --> 01:52:29,280
go

2713
01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:31,520
listen anjali

2714
01:52:36,070 --> 01:52:33,360
i have all the information about where

2715
01:52:37,750 --> 01:52:36,080
your alien mountain was and

2716
01:52:39,430 --> 01:52:37,760
um

2717
01:52:41,669 --> 01:52:39,440
i'm gonna release it all

2718
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:41,679
and blow your story out of the water

2719
01:52:46,390 --> 01:52:44,639
but before i do that i'm going to bribe

2720
01:52:49,189 --> 01:52:46,400
you into giving me an exclusive

2721
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:49,199
interview after you show all the proof

2722
01:52:53,669 --> 01:52:51,360
of the aliens i get the exclusive first

2723
01:52:55,669 --> 01:52:53,679
interview anjali the fact that some

2724
01:52:58,229 --> 01:52:55,679
people believe that that's what happened

2725
01:53:00,709 --> 01:52:58,239
is ridiculous she made some off-handed

2726
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:00,719
comment uh on a show

2727
01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:03,119
that i agreed not to release it and then

2728
01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:05,199
maybe she would give me an interview

2729
01:53:09,270 --> 01:53:08,080
and exclusive after she did her

2730
01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:09,280
expedition

2731
01:53:12,950 --> 01:53:11,360
that and i even say on the clip that

2732
01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:12,960
people are sharing trashing me that's

2733
01:53:16,950 --> 01:53:14,880
not what happened that's not how i

2734
01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:16,960
remember it how i remember it so let's

2735
01:53:22,149 --> 01:53:18,880
set the record straight is i sent her

2736
01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:22,159
the information that i had failed we

2737
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:23,679
really uh

2738
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:26,080
james conrad and charlie wiser but they

2739
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:27,440
let me in on it because they knew i was

2740
01:53:31,750 --> 01:53:29,280
working on the story too

2741
01:53:33,589 --> 01:53:31,760
i shared with audre lee that we believe

2742
01:53:35,910 --> 01:53:33,599
that we have located

2743
01:53:38,390 --> 01:53:35,920
this wayne the mountain and whatever i

2744
01:53:40,390 --> 01:53:38,400
sent her the information

2745
01:53:42,629 --> 01:53:40,400
she got hysterical

2746
01:53:44,870 --> 01:53:42,639
she got very very emotional i believe

2747
01:53:47,030 --> 01:53:44,880
she was crying and everything

2748
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:47,040
uh so i talked to her about the

2749
01:53:52,790 --> 01:53:50,320
situation and she was crying and

2750
01:53:55,510 --> 01:53:52,800
extremely upset and i knew she had

2751
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:55,520
health problems so i felt bad that i had

2752
01:53:59,109 --> 01:53:56,719
caused her to have some kind of

2753
01:54:01,510 --> 01:53:59,119
emotional she was like almost having a

2754
01:54:03,270 --> 01:54:01,520
breakdown from my recollection and she

2755
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:03,280
begged me please please you can't

2756
01:54:07,109 --> 01:54:04,960
release this because

2757
01:54:08,629 --> 01:54:07,119
you're gonna put wayne's life in danger

2758
01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:08,639
and this and that and all these other

2759
01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:11,360
things and she's upset and crying and i

2760
01:54:15,750 --> 01:54:13,520
i felt sympathy for her and i felt

2761
01:54:17,589 --> 01:54:15,760
empathy for her so i i said

2762
01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:17,599
i won't release it

2763
01:54:23,270 --> 01:54:19,920
but i warned her that other people had

2764
01:54:25,109 --> 01:54:23,280
this information and they may release it

2765
01:54:28,229 --> 01:54:25,119
later in the conversation after she

2766
01:54:30,709 --> 01:54:28,239
calmed down and whatever she was very uh

2767
01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:30,719
thankful and said i'm so glad and you

2768
01:54:34,070 --> 01:54:32,080
know she complimented me on having

2769
01:54:35,030 --> 01:54:34,080
journalistic integrity whatever that

2770
01:54:37,510 --> 01:54:35,040
means

2771
01:54:39,750 --> 01:54:37,520
and and then said

2772
01:54:41,669 --> 01:54:39,760
once i'm finished with the expedition

2773
01:54:42,870 --> 01:54:41,679
you can release anything you want and

2774
01:54:45,510 --> 01:54:42,880
then i'll give you an exclusive

2775
01:54:48,870 --> 01:54:45,520
interview i didn't ask for that she

2776
01:54:50,709 --> 01:54:48,880
offered first of all i offered to not

2777
01:54:53,430 --> 01:54:50,719
release any of that information before

2778
01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:53,440
she offered me anything in return i say

2779
01:54:57,750 --> 01:54:55,679
on that clip this was not a tit for tat

2780
01:54:59,669 --> 01:54:57,760
that's not what happened

2781
01:55:01,109 --> 01:54:59,679
but people are going to take that clip

2782
01:55:02,870 --> 01:55:01,119
trying to make me look like i did some

2783
01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:02,880
kind of big back room deal and by the

2784
01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:04,560
way that whole thing is ridiculous

2785
01:55:07,990 --> 01:55:05,920
anyway because the whole story fell

2786
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:08,000
apart do people really think that i

2787
01:55:11,350 --> 01:55:09,440
thought i was going to get an exclusive

2788
01:55:12,390 --> 01:55:11,360
interview with anjali and her alien

2789
01:55:14,390 --> 01:55:12,400
friends

2790
01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:14,400
if i just kept my mail shut and the

2791
01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:16,719
other issue is that i knew that other

2792
01:55:21,750 --> 01:55:19,040
people were hot on the trail of this

2793
01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:21,760
anjali waynes mountain i knew people

2794
01:55:25,910 --> 01:55:23,920
that were this close that i know were

2795
01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:25,920
blabbermouths and were never going to

2796
01:55:29,990 --> 01:55:27,440
keep it to themselves

2797
01:55:32,310 --> 01:55:30,000
so i thought there's no harm in me not

2798
01:55:34,870 --> 01:55:32,320
releasing it because somebody's going to

2799
01:55:36,470 --> 01:55:34,880
release this in the next couple of weeks

2800
01:55:37,750 --> 01:55:36,480
and what happened

2801
01:55:39,589 --> 01:55:37,760
three

2802
01:55:42,149 --> 01:55:39,599
maybe four

2803
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:42,159
four different twitter accounts released

2804
01:55:47,910 --> 01:55:44,560
the same information that i had that i

2805
01:55:49,990 --> 01:55:47,920
agreed not to actually not to release

2806
01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:50,000
three or four different people the very

2807
01:55:55,189 --> 01:55:52,000
next week maybe the week after at the

2808
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:55,199
latest released all the same information

2809
01:55:59,830 --> 01:55:57,520
so me withholding it you know some

2810
01:56:01,510 --> 01:55:59,840
people are gonna imply that i i was i

2811
01:56:04,310 --> 01:56:01,520
was withholding information from the

2812
01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:04,320
community that's garbage that's [\h__\h]

2813
01:56:08,229 --> 01:56:05,760
i knew it was going to be out there in a

2814
01:56:10,149 --> 01:56:08,239
few short days or a week or two max and

2815
01:56:13,589 --> 01:56:10,159
it was so me withholding that

2816
01:56:15,830 --> 01:56:13,599
information it had to do with

2817
01:56:17,270 --> 01:56:15,840
my sympathy and empathy for an

2818
01:56:20,390 --> 01:56:17,280
incredibly

2819
01:56:22,310 --> 01:56:20,400
mentally fragile and upset woman

2820
01:56:25,270 --> 01:56:22,320
i decided i didn't want to cause her

2821
01:56:28,070 --> 01:56:25,280
additional stress or pain or you know

2822
01:56:31,430 --> 01:56:28,080
emotional distress because she was i'm

2823
01:56:34,070 --> 01:56:31,440
telling you she was so upset over me

2824
01:56:36,870 --> 01:56:34,080
possibly releasing this information

2825
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:36,880
i felt horrible and said so and i but i

2826
01:56:40,310 --> 01:56:38,400
warned her i said somebody's going to do

2827
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:40,320
it audrey somebody else is going to put

2828
01:56:44,709 --> 01:56:42,800
this out there but i give you my word i

2829
01:56:46,229 --> 01:56:44,719
won't put it out until the end of

2830
01:56:47,990 --> 01:56:46,239
december

2831
01:56:50,149 --> 01:56:48,000
that's what happened later in the

2832
01:56:51,350 --> 01:56:50,159
conversation she calmed down

2833
01:56:53,189 --> 01:56:51,360
agreed to

2834
01:56:56,149 --> 01:56:53,199
oh i'll give you an exclusive interview

2835
01:56:58,149 --> 01:56:56,159
after the uh the expedition where we

2836
01:56:59,189 --> 01:56:58,159
show the proof of the aliens and i said

2837
01:57:01,189 --> 01:56:59,199
okay

2838
01:57:03,669 --> 01:57:01,199
did i think she was really gonna

2839
01:57:04,709 --> 01:57:03,679
give the proof of the aliens not really

2840
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:04,719
right

2841
01:57:09,910 --> 01:57:06,880
then it was like you know

2842
01:57:11,830 --> 01:57:09,920
but again this was not a tit for tat so

2843
01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:11,840
there was no back room deal there was a

2844
01:57:16,550 --> 01:57:14,320
conversation which no one except her and

2845
01:57:19,430 --> 01:57:16,560
i were in on so you people's people

2846
01:57:22,470 --> 01:57:19,440
speculate making up [\h__\h] like okay

2847
01:57:25,030 --> 01:57:22,480
whatever and by the way that story is is

2848
01:57:26,550 --> 01:57:25,040
is completely gone now so you know

2849
01:57:27,669 --> 01:57:26,560
people want me to interview her again

2850
01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:27,679
about what

2851
01:57:31,750 --> 01:57:29,440
about she didn't find the proof and

2852
01:57:34,149 --> 01:57:31,760
again listen i have nothing against her

2853
01:57:35,910 --> 01:57:34,159
nice lady i wish her the best of success

2854
01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:35,920
and and

2855
01:57:40,149 --> 01:57:39,199
and everything in her life i i hope that

2856
01:57:45,430 --> 01:57:40,159
she

2857
01:57:46,149 --> 01:57:45,440
have anything against her

2858
01:57:49,270 --> 01:57:46,159
but

2859
01:57:51,669 --> 01:57:49,280
i don't think that there's anything left

2860
01:57:54,070 --> 01:57:51,679
of a story there lee guy with the kind

2861
01:57:55,270 --> 01:57:54,080
of generous 999 super sticker full of

2862
01:57:57,589 --> 01:57:55,280
bacon

2863
01:57:59,270 --> 01:57:57,599
i someday i'm gonna meet lee guy and i'm

2864
01:58:00,709 --> 01:57:59,280
gonna give him some pre-cooked bacon you

2865
01:58:03,030 --> 01:58:00,719
know you could get those like bacon

2866
01:58:05,030 --> 01:58:03,040
snack packs at 7-eleven i don't know

2867
01:58:07,910 --> 01:58:05,040
what league guy's fascination with bacon

2868
01:58:10,790 --> 01:58:07,920
is but he's always posting bacon i love

2869
01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:10,800
bacon i love blts i love bacon double

2870
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:12,880
cheeseburgers right

2871
01:58:17,910 --> 01:58:15,360
i love bacon sprinkled in salads i love

2872
01:58:19,589 --> 01:58:17,920
bacons what's not to like about bacon

2873
01:58:21,109 --> 01:58:19,599
right lee guy but thank you for your

2874
01:58:23,109 --> 01:58:21,119
kindness your generosity and your

2875
01:58:24,790 --> 01:58:23,119
support of the show means a lot to me

2876
01:58:26,550 --> 01:58:24,800
continuing supporter of the show league

2877
01:58:31,270 --> 01:58:26,560
i always throwing a couple bucks in our

2878
01:58:35,109 --> 01:58:33,350
ryan evans says steve let the story die

2879
01:58:36,870 --> 01:58:35,119
she's done and there is nothing there i

2880
01:58:38,870 --> 01:58:36,880
agree with you ryan but i was addressing

2881
01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:38,880
people slagging me on twitter saying

2882
01:58:41,589 --> 01:58:40,480
there was some kind of backroom deal

2883
01:58:42,790 --> 01:58:41,599
there wasn't

2884
01:58:49,990 --> 01:58:42,800
you know but people are going to believe

2885
01:58:53,109 --> 01:58:51,109
v says

2886
01:58:55,109 --> 01:58:53,119
isn't that a fact wayne never once has

2887
01:58:57,750 --> 01:58:55,119
confirmed or alluded to anything alien

2888
01:59:01,270 --> 01:58:57,760
on his property it depends do you mean

2889
01:59:03,669 --> 01:59:01,280
the wayne i found and james a conrad and

2890
01:59:06,070 --> 01:59:03,679
charlie weiser found or the other wayne

2891
01:59:07,669 --> 01:59:06,080
that somebody else failed or the wayne

2892
01:59:09,189 --> 01:59:07,679
that anjali says

2893
01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:09,199
is the real wayne and those other two

2894
01:59:13,350 --> 01:59:10,960
waynes aren't the waynes we don't have

2895
01:59:16,149 --> 01:59:13,360
any on the record statement from any

2896
01:59:18,310 --> 01:59:16,159
wayne confirming any alien activity on

2897
01:59:20,070 --> 01:59:18,320
this property no v so yeah i think that

2898
01:59:21,830 --> 01:59:20,080
the story is

2899
01:59:22,870 --> 01:59:21,840
just not

2900
01:59:24,870 --> 01:59:22,880
you know

2901
01:59:32,390 --> 01:59:24,880
it fell it fell apart that girl jessica

2902
01:59:35,750 --> 01:59:34,550
brock landers commenting still dude just

2903
01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:35,760
because you have her on your show in

2904
01:59:38,790 --> 01:59:37,280
order to share her story does not mean

2905
01:59:40,629 --> 01:59:38,800
that you believe everything she says or

2906
01:59:43,189 --> 01:59:40,639
support it it's a show with someone

2907
01:59:44,390 --> 01:59:43,199
sharing their experiences i agree

2908
01:59:46,470 --> 01:59:44,400
but somehow

2909
01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:46,480
these people think that just because i

2910
01:59:51,189 --> 01:59:48,480
host a guest that i believe everything

2911
01:59:52,709 --> 01:59:51,199
they they say on the show and i believe

2912
01:59:55,109 --> 01:59:52,719
everything they say

2913
01:59:57,109 --> 01:59:55,119
or ever said in their entire lives it's

2914
01:59:59,350 --> 01:59:57,119
an attempt to turn people against me

2915
02:00:01,350 --> 01:59:59,360
it's childish and stupid and i agree

2916
02:00:02,709 --> 02:00:01,360
with you brock i do the best i can here

2917
02:00:04,629 --> 02:00:02,719
that's all i mean this is all we could

2918
02:00:06,310 --> 02:00:04,639
do

2919
02:00:07,669 --> 02:00:06,320
ryan evans says he's into pork if you

2920
02:00:09,910 --> 02:00:07,679
know what i mean

2921
02:00:12,870 --> 02:00:09,920
um

2922
02:00:15,189 --> 02:00:12,880
yeah i really don't know

2923
02:00:17,189 --> 02:00:15,199
archaic revival says finishing an

2924
02:00:19,030 --> 02:00:17,199
incredible walnut shaped ufo right now

2925
02:00:20,870 --> 02:00:19,040
uploading it in an hour or two i'd like

2926
02:00:21,750 --> 02:00:20,880
to see that make sure you send me

2927
02:00:22,709 --> 02:00:21,760
send me

2928
02:00:25,750 --> 02:00:22,719
that

2929
02:00:28,470 --> 02:00:25,760
uh always interested in new uh new

2930
02:00:31,350 --> 02:00:28,480
work dan hogan says wayne's world yeah

2931
02:00:34,229 --> 02:00:31,360
uh we did an homage to wayne's world on

2932
02:00:39,669 --> 02:00:37,430
al warrior with a kind of generous 6.66

2933
02:00:41,350 --> 02:00:39,679
super chat saying lee made me do it bro

2934
02:00:43,669 --> 02:00:41,360
huh well thank you for your kindness

2935
02:00:45,910 --> 02:00:43,679
your generosity and your support we

2936
02:00:48,310 --> 02:00:45,920
certainly appreciate it long time

2937
02:00:50,550 --> 02:00:48,320
uh live chat participant and supporter

2938
02:00:52,629 --> 02:00:50,560
of the show al warrior always good to

2939
02:00:54,149 --> 02:00:52,639
see how warrior here always got

2940
02:00:56,070 --> 02:00:54,159
something to contribute to the

2941
02:00:57,270 --> 02:00:56,080
conversation and

2942
02:00:58,950 --> 02:00:57,280
occasionally we'll throw a couple of

2943
02:01:00,709 --> 02:00:58,960
bucks in my head thank you al warrior

2944
02:01:02,870 --> 02:01:00,719
for kindness your generosity and your

2945
02:01:04,870 --> 02:01:02,880
support of the show it is much much

2946
02:01:07,350 --> 02:01:04,880
appreciated we're gonna we're gonna get

2947
02:01:09,510 --> 02:01:07,360
you appraised the cash out warrior

2948
02:01:11,910 --> 02:01:09,520
if i can find it

2949
02:01:14,790 --> 02:01:11,920
there we go and a station identification

2950
02:01:17,109 --> 02:01:14,800
if i if i happen to play the right one

2951
02:01:19,030 --> 02:01:17,119
sometimes i play the wrong one i gotta

2952
02:01:21,270 --> 02:01:19,040
write them down which one is yeah i

2953
02:01:23,350 --> 02:01:21,280
think this is it so thank you al warrior

2954
02:01:24,050 --> 02:01:23,360
for helping us to praise the cash

2955
02:01:30,709 --> 02:01:24,060
friends

2956
02:01:36,780 --> 02:01:32,870
you're watching tracy

2957
02:01:41,350 --> 02:01:36,790
praise cash to catch

2958
02:01:47,990 --> 02:01:44,390
thank you al warrior

2959
02:01:49,830 --> 02:01:48,000
cash praiser extraordinaire al warrior

2960
02:01:52,030 --> 02:01:49,840
who is helping us to praise the cash

2961
02:01:55,030 --> 02:01:52,040
that girl jessica with kind and generous

2962
02:01:56,470 --> 02:01:55,040
3.33 australian you know i didn't know

2963
02:01:58,070 --> 02:01:56,480
until recently that that girl jessica

2964
02:01:59,990 --> 02:01:58,080
was from australia

2965
02:02:01,990 --> 02:02:00,000
um and we'd like to have her on when we

2966
02:02:04,070 --> 02:02:02,000
do we're going to do a show on how crazy

2967
02:02:06,310 --> 02:02:04,080
australia got over the covered health

2968
02:02:07,910 --> 02:02:06,320
crisis we got to be careful doing it but

2969
02:02:09,669 --> 02:02:07,920
um

2970
02:02:11,350 --> 02:02:09,679
we'd like to have that girl jessica on

2971
02:02:13,109 --> 02:02:11,360
the show so she has an open invitation

2972
02:02:14,149 --> 02:02:13,119
to come and be a guest

2973
02:02:15,030 --> 02:02:14,159
um

2974
02:02:16,629 --> 02:02:15,040
yeah

2975
02:02:17,910 --> 02:02:16,639
right evan says that scared the hell out

2976
02:02:25,350 --> 02:02:17,920
of me how do you think i feel i got to

2977
02:02:31,109 --> 02:02:27,270
that girl jessica says no you're not i'm

2978
02:02:34,709 --> 02:02:32,790
the sixth sense reminding everyone there

2979
02:02:36,470 --> 02:02:34,719
apparently was multiple waynes whatever

2980
02:02:38,229 --> 02:02:36,480
fit the story some innocent soul is

2981
02:02:39,669 --> 02:02:38,239
probably being harassed as a result of

2982
02:02:41,350 --> 02:02:39,679
their claims

2983
02:02:44,070 --> 02:02:41,360
and that's uh

2984
02:02:46,629 --> 02:02:44,080
what they are claims no proof whatsoever

2985
02:02:50,070 --> 02:02:46,639
yeah we've yet to receive any proof

2986
02:02:51,430 --> 02:02:50,080
whatsoever of of anjali's claims we

2987
02:02:53,750 --> 02:02:51,440
haven't been able to interview the other

2988
02:02:56,149 --> 02:02:53,760
witnesses we haven't been able to

2989
02:02:57,270 --> 02:02:56,159
uh find corroborating evidence to her

2990
02:02:59,589 --> 02:02:57,280
story

2991
02:03:01,510 --> 02:02:59,599
though i was able to verify that her

2992
02:03:03,030 --> 02:03:01,520
claimed background and credentials were

2993
02:03:04,629 --> 02:03:03,040
real she did

2994
02:03:06,229 --> 02:03:04,639
work for the military she did work for

2995
02:03:10,870 --> 02:03:06,239
the united states government as she said

2996
02:03:14,229 --> 02:03:12,790
ryan evans tell me to sell that laugh i

2997
02:03:16,070 --> 02:03:14,239
wish i could can it i think we're going

2998
02:03:17,750 --> 02:03:16,080
to get little chips that you can put my

2999
02:03:21,510 --> 02:03:17,760
laugh in and make some kind of laughing

3000
02:03:23,189 --> 02:03:21,520
doll for people that would be good

3001
02:03:24,950 --> 02:03:23,199
jesse singer reminding me stick to your

3002
02:03:26,390 --> 02:03:24,960
gun steve don't pull off the gas because

3003
02:03:28,229 --> 02:03:26,400
the brothers

3004
02:03:29,750 --> 02:03:28,239
are on your tail i think i know what

3005
02:03:31,910 --> 02:03:29,760
you're talking who you're talking about

3006
02:03:34,629 --> 02:03:31,920
we'll see we'll see what happens you

3007
02:03:36,390 --> 02:03:34,639
know um i'm in here for the long haul

3008
02:03:38,390 --> 02:03:36,400
i'm here for the long game

3009
02:03:39,510 --> 02:03:38,400
right so

3010
02:03:41,510 --> 02:03:39,520
you know

3011
02:03:43,910 --> 02:03:41,520
i i think about that sometimes like i

3012
02:03:45,589 --> 02:03:43,920
think about the the long game here you

3013
02:03:46,709 --> 02:03:45,599
know where is the show going to be at in

3014
02:03:48,790 --> 02:03:46,719
five years

3015
02:03:50,709 --> 02:03:48,800
because i'm here to stay i'm not i don't

3016
02:03:53,030 --> 02:03:50,719
think i'm going anywhere right i love

3017
02:03:55,750 --> 02:03:53,040
what we do here i'm continually trying

3018
02:03:58,229 --> 02:03:55,760
to improve the show make the show better

3019
02:04:00,149 --> 02:03:58,239
and um

3020
02:04:01,910 --> 02:04:00,159
that's kind of where i'm at you know and

3021
02:04:03,189 --> 02:04:01,920
i get you know i get to be critics i've

3022
02:04:05,189 --> 02:04:03,199
done a lot of things in my life where

3023
02:04:06,709 --> 02:04:05,199
there's always critics and one thing

3024
02:04:08,310 --> 02:04:06,719
i've always noticed is there's always a

3025
02:04:09,189 --> 02:04:08,320
guy that doesn't have his own work to

3026
02:04:11,830 --> 02:04:09,199
show

3027
02:04:13,430 --> 02:04:11,840
that is the big critic right the big

3028
02:04:15,430 --> 02:04:13,440
critic is always the guy who can't do

3029
02:04:16,790 --> 02:04:15,440
what you're doing it's never a guy

3030
02:04:17,750 --> 02:04:16,800
that's doing what you're doing better

3031
02:04:19,430 --> 02:04:17,760
than you

3032
02:04:21,030 --> 02:04:19,440
right if anything

3033
02:04:22,709 --> 02:04:21,040
i've been very blessed in my life and

3034
02:04:24,550 --> 02:04:22,719
that sometimes i've decided to do things

3035
02:04:25,510 --> 02:04:24,560
and guys that were doing it better than

3036
02:04:34,149 --> 02:04:25,520
me

3037
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:34,159
you know when a guy who's doing a bigger

3038
02:04:37,669 --> 02:04:36,320
show than me gets me aside and says hey

3039
02:04:40,470 --> 02:04:37,679
i like what you're doing can i give you

3040
02:04:43,669 --> 02:04:40,480
some constructive criticism i am like i

3041
02:04:45,589 --> 02:04:43,679
am all ears bro yes you are so much more

3042
02:04:47,910 --> 02:04:45,599
successful than me i would love to hear

3043
02:04:49,510 --> 02:04:47,920
your thoughts and opinions on how i can

3044
02:04:51,030 --> 02:04:49,520
improve what i'm doing

3045
02:04:53,589 --> 02:04:51,040
but that's not the kind of criticism

3046
02:04:56,390 --> 02:04:53,599
that you get right you get some armchair

3047
02:04:58,069 --> 02:04:56,400
[\h__\h] right

3048
02:04:59,189 --> 02:04:58,079
who never did anything like you're doing

3049
02:05:00,390 --> 02:04:59,199
that's going to tell you everything

3050
02:05:02,550 --> 02:05:00,400
you're doing wrong

3051
02:05:04,470 --> 02:05:02,560
and you know you just got to learn to

3052
02:05:08,709 --> 02:05:04,480
live with it

3053
02:05:10,790 --> 02:05:08,719
right

3054
02:05:13,430 --> 02:05:10,800
ryan evans says steve kyle is a good guy

3055
02:05:15,189 --> 02:05:13,440
and well liked he's a good guy uh okay

3056
02:05:17,350 --> 02:05:15,199
uh you know i'll take your word for it

3057
02:05:19,189 --> 02:05:17,360
you know i'm not i'm not disagreeing you

3058
02:05:21,350 --> 02:05:19,199
know sometimes uh

3059
02:05:24,149 --> 02:05:21,360
sometimes i get things wrong right maybe

3060
02:05:25,750 --> 02:05:24,159
outward appearances you never know

3061
02:05:28,310 --> 02:05:25,760
yeah and i wish all men are road to

3062
02:05:31,430 --> 02:05:28,320
redemption uh especially if they have

3063
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:31,440
drug and alcohol issues because

3064
02:05:34,310 --> 02:05:32,480
friends

3065
02:05:36,790 --> 02:05:34,320
the person somebody is when they're on

3066
02:05:38,950 --> 02:05:36,800
drugs and alcohol is not the same person

3067
02:05:40,870 --> 02:05:38,960
they are when they're off those things

3068
02:05:42,870 --> 02:05:40,880
so you know i have a lot of sympathy and

3069
02:05:43,990 --> 02:05:42,880
empathy got a lot of uh substance

3070
02:05:46,709 --> 02:05:44,000
abusers

3071
02:05:48,790 --> 02:05:46,719
close friends and family even and uh and

3072
02:05:52,390 --> 02:05:48,800
i have my own issues as well

3073
02:05:56,950 --> 02:05:52,400
so uh you know i i try to be sympathetic

3074
02:06:00,709 --> 02:05:58,870
brock landers says having the so-called

3075
02:06:02,709 --> 02:06:00,719
experiencers on the show is definitely

3076
02:06:05,109 --> 02:06:02,719
entertaining maybe have a disclaimer

3077
02:06:07,750 --> 02:06:05,119
before the show yeah but then i then i

3078
02:06:09,990 --> 02:06:07,760
get slagged we did that once and then i

3079
02:06:11,430 --> 02:06:10,000
got slagged for it like oh he doesn't

3080
02:06:13,669 --> 02:06:11,440
agree with the guests then why have them

3081
02:06:22,790 --> 02:06:13,679
all like they're always gonna complain

3082
02:06:27,109 --> 02:06:24,629
bryce says not everyone wants a bigger

3083
02:06:29,589 --> 02:06:27,119
show just a better show okay yeah well

3084
02:06:31,430 --> 02:06:29,599
i'm trying to do both bigger and better

3085
02:06:33,669 --> 02:06:31,440
right if i don't get bigger maybe i'll

3086
02:06:35,910 --> 02:06:33,679
just get better bry and i'll just i'll

3087
02:06:37,589 --> 02:06:35,920
just do the do this show for the same

3088
02:06:38,950 --> 02:06:37,599
number of people for the next five years

3089
02:06:41,510 --> 02:06:38,960
but the show will just get better and

3090
02:06:42,790 --> 02:06:41,520
better and better but what i think is

3091
02:06:45,109 --> 02:06:42,800
when the show gets better and better and

3092
02:06:46,790 --> 02:06:45,119
better more people come in

3093
02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:46,800
and that's just been my experience so

3094
02:06:58,229 --> 02:06:56,149
cosmic toast reminding people some

3095
02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:58,239
people who have mental illnesses i think

3096
02:07:01,830 --> 02:07:00,400
that they're referring to experiencers

3097
02:07:03,589 --> 02:07:01,840
could be you know i'm always very

3098
02:07:05,430 --> 02:07:03,599
cautious when talking to experiencers

3099
02:07:06,870 --> 02:07:05,440
because i don't want to

3100
02:07:09,030 --> 02:07:06,880
exploit somebody that may be just

3101
02:07:11,990 --> 02:07:09,040
suffering from mental illness you never

3102
02:07:13,990 --> 02:07:12,000
know what's going to happen right

3103
02:07:15,189 --> 02:07:14,000
um

3104
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:15,199
we try to

3105
02:07:20,709 --> 02:07:18,880
you know uh going forward that's all i

3106
02:07:22,550 --> 02:07:20,719
can try to do right

3107
02:07:24,790 --> 02:07:22,560
and uh i'm not brushing off all

3108
02:07:26,470 --> 02:07:24,800
criticism by the way i'm sure that

3109
02:07:27,510 --> 02:07:26,480
some people have valid points to make

3110
02:07:29,510 --> 02:07:27,520
and i'm

3111
02:07:32,069 --> 02:07:29,520
i'm here and i'll listen you know i'll

3112
02:07:33,830 --> 02:07:32,079
hear you out and i you know

3113
02:07:35,910 --> 02:07:33,840
and uh

3114
02:07:38,229 --> 02:07:35,920
i'll hear you well i may disagree with

3115
02:07:41,750 --> 02:07:38,239
you i may agree with you but i'm not one

3116
02:07:43,669 --> 02:07:41,760
to just uh you know ignore all

3117
02:07:45,990 --> 02:07:43,679
people that have uh

3118
02:07:47,750 --> 02:07:46,000
you know some criticism but like i said

3119
02:07:50,790 --> 02:07:47,760
i especially like the constructive

3120
02:07:52,470 --> 02:07:50,800
criticism i don't and i especially like

3121
02:07:53,669 --> 02:07:52,480
people who can't just tell me what i'm

3122
02:07:55,510 --> 02:07:53,679
doing wrong

3123
02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:55,520
or how to do it better but that can show

3124
02:07:58,149 --> 02:07:56,560
me

3125
02:08:00,149 --> 02:07:58,159
what i'm doing wrong and how they're

3126
02:08:01,589 --> 02:08:00,159
doing it better or how they overcame

3127
02:08:03,750 --> 02:08:01,599
that obstacle

3128
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:03,760
right constructive criticism is great

3129
02:08:06,229 --> 02:08:04,719
thing

3130
02:08:08,470 --> 02:08:06,239
and it means sometimes it means that

3131
02:08:10,470 --> 02:08:08,480
somebody cared enough about you

3132
02:08:11,990 --> 02:08:10,480
to be honest with you

3133
02:08:12,950 --> 02:08:12,000
and you need people in your life like

3134
02:08:16,629 --> 02:08:12,960
that

3135
02:08:18,390 --> 02:08:16,639
gotta have some booger friends what's a

3136
02:08:20,470 --> 02:08:18,400
booger friend

3137
02:08:22,629 --> 02:08:20,480
you ever have a booger hanging right and

3138
02:08:24,069 --> 02:08:22,639
you don't know it and you notice people

3139
02:08:25,910 --> 02:08:24,079
looking at you a little funny but nobody

3140
02:08:28,629 --> 02:08:25,920
says anything

3141
02:08:30,229 --> 02:08:28,639
the people that don't say hey steve

3142
02:08:31,350 --> 02:08:30,239
get a napkin you got a booger hanging

3143
02:08:33,750 --> 02:08:31,360
those are the people who don't care

3144
02:08:35,189 --> 02:08:33,760
about you the booger friends care about

3145
02:08:37,430 --> 02:08:35,199
you the booger friends are the people

3146
02:08:39,430 --> 02:08:37,440
that'll say come up and let you know you

3147
02:08:41,589 --> 02:08:39,440
got a booger hanging that was taught to

3148
02:08:43,510 --> 02:08:41,599
me by an entertainer friend of mine he

3149
02:08:45,510 --> 02:08:43,520
said have as many booker friends as you

3150
02:08:47,830 --> 02:08:45,520
can and i'm like what what's a booger

3151
02:08:49,030 --> 02:08:47,840
friend it makes sense

3152
02:08:50,470 --> 02:08:49,040
book a friend is somebody that cares

3153
02:08:51,830 --> 02:08:50,480
enough about you that they don't want to

3154
02:08:53,910 --> 02:08:51,840
see you embarrass yourself so they'll

3155
02:08:57,030 --> 02:08:53,920
take you aside and they'll help you when

3156
02:08:59,109 --> 02:08:57,040
you need help right

3157
02:09:00,470 --> 02:08:59,119
dan hogan says the problem is with a

3158
02:09:02,629 --> 02:09:00,480
bigger show you've got to bring in the

3159
02:09:04,470 --> 02:09:02,639
grip squad anjali brought over 300

3160
02:09:06,149 --> 02:09:04,480
viewers which is great but look where

3161
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:06,159
that went just do the show that you want

3162
02:09:09,430 --> 02:09:08,000
to do people will be there well that's

3163
02:09:11,189 --> 02:09:09,440
what we're doing this week we're trying

3164
02:09:12,790 --> 02:09:11,199
to we're kind of popping off in a

3165
02:09:14,790 --> 02:09:12,800
different direction right we're seeing

3166
02:09:16,390 --> 02:09:14,800
where we're seeing where

3167
02:09:19,030 --> 02:09:16,400
this goes and i'm trying to get back to

3168
02:09:20,550 --> 02:09:19,040
the roots of the show dan because the

3169
02:09:22,550 --> 02:09:20,560
roots of the show were supposed to be to

3170
02:09:25,189 --> 02:09:22,560
explain to explore

3171
02:09:28,550 --> 02:09:25,199
strange and esoteric and paranormal

3172
02:09:30,390 --> 02:09:28,560
subjects not one strange and esoteric

3173
02:09:32,709 --> 02:09:30,400
and paranormal subject but it just

3174
02:09:35,510 --> 02:09:32,719
organically went in a certain direction

3175
02:09:38,709 --> 02:09:35,520
and we covered one

3176
02:09:40,790 --> 02:09:38,719
sort of subculture of that genre more

3177
02:09:42,149 --> 02:09:40,800
than we covered all the rest so now we

3178
02:09:44,069 --> 02:09:42,159
got to get back to

3179
02:09:46,870 --> 02:09:44,079
some balance and cover some of the rest

3180
02:09:48,790 --> 02:09:46,880
of the stuff and not be on one beat

3181
02:09:51,189 --> 02:09:48,800
right that because that beat sucks

3182
02:09:52,709 --> 02:09:51,199
sometimes being stuck on the one beat

3183
02:09:55,189 --> 02:09:52,719
it's like you're in a subculture of a

3184
02:09:56,550 --> 02:09:55,199
subculture of a subculture you know

3185
02:09:57,350 --> 02:09:56,560
and how many

3186
02:09:59,189 --> 02:09:57,360
you know

3187
02:10:01,030 --> 02:09:59,199
how many consumers of a subculture of a

3188
02:10:02,390 --> 02:10:01,040
subculture of the subculture can there

3189
02:10:04,550 --> 02:10:02,400
really be

3190
02:10:05,350 --> 02:10:04,560
the answer is not many

3191
02:10:06,550 --> 02:10:05,360
and

3192
02:10:08,229 --> 02:10:06,560
some people

3193
02:10:10,790 --> 02:10:08,239
will say yeah well you're trying to grow

3194
02:10:12,790 --> 02:10:10,800
your ten or you know have a bit yeah

3195
02:10:14,629 --> 02:10:12,800
we'd like to grow the ten and we'd like

3196
02:10:17,189 --> 02:10:14,639
to paint with a little broader strokes

3197
02:10:18,629 --> 02:10:17,199
here so that's what we're going to do um

3198
02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:18,639
i think that's best for the show and

3199
02:10:23,030 --> 02:10:21,040
it's long-term growth we may take a hit

3200
02:10:24,950 --> 02:10:23,040
short term in the numbers because some

3201
02:10:26,950 --> 02:10:24,960
people are tuning in going what he's not

3202
02:10:28,709 --> 02:10:26,960
talking about aliens tonight i don't

3203
02:10:30,870 --> 02:10:28,719
want to see this and they tune out and

3204
02:10:35,589 --> 02:10:30,880
that's okay come back when we talk about

3205
02:10:39,430 --> 02:10:37,350
ryan evans asked do you mind if i asked

3206
02:10:40,709 --> 02:10:39,440
how your eye injury happened steve no

3207
02:10:42,550 --> 02:10:40,719
not at all

3208
02:10:46,069 --> 02:10:42,560
and it's not anything dramatic like i

3209
02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:46,079
didn't get stabbed or shot in the eye

3210
02:10:49,589 --> 02:10:48,560
i had a friend once but uh in his

3211
02:10:52,069 --> 02:10:49,599
defense

3212
02:10:52,870 --> 02:10:52,079
for a while i was wearing a patch on my

3213
02:10:56,229 --> 02:10:52,880
eye

3214
02:10:57,910 --> 02:10:56,239
for some reason everybody thinks she got

3215
02:10:59,350 --> 02:10:57,920
stabbed in the eye or shot in the eye so

3216
02:11:01,589 --> 02:10:59,360
i had a friend he thought i got stabbed

3217
02:11:03,589 --> 02:11:01,599
in the eye for like a year before he

3218
02:11:05,910 --> 02:11:03,599
finally somebody else mentioned what

3219
02:11:08,830 --> 02:11:05,920
really happened what happened was

3220
02:11:12,550 --> 02:11:08,840
i had a brain aneurysm ryan evans

3221
02:11:14,229 --> 02:11:12,560
and the brain aneurysm was right behind

3222
02:11:15,830 --> 02:11:14,239
my eye

3223
02:11:17,830 --> 02:11:15,840
uh

3224
02:11:19,589 --> 02:11:17,840
so it was sort of

3225
02:11:21,830 --> 02:11:19,599
in the brain but in that part of the

3226
02:11:23,589 --> 02:11:21,840
brain right before the optic nerve in

3227
02:11:25,189 --> 02:11:23,599
the eye starts you know what i mean like

3228
02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:25,199
right on the edge of the brain behind

3229
02:11:27,669 --> 02:11:26,320
the eye

3230
02:11:29,990 --> 02:11:27,679
and for those who don't know a brain

3231
02:11:31,430 --> 02:11:30,000
aneurysm is like a bubble that forms in

3232
02:11:33,990 --> 02:11:31,440
the blood vessel

3233
02:11:34,709 --> 02:11:34,000
and if it pops it shoots blood all over

3234
02:11:37,030 --> 02:11:34,719
your

3235
02:11:39,109 --> 02:11:37,040
brain and you either stroke out

3236
02:11:41,430 --> 02:11:39,119
and become probably a vegetable or

3237
02:11:43,189 --> 02:11:41,440
paralyzed can't talk can't walk

3238
02:11:45,430 --> 02:11:43,199
you know

3239
02:11:47,669 --> 02:11:45,440
or you die instantly

3240
02:11:51,109 --> 02:11:47,679
i was very fortunate ryan evans in that

3241
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:51,119
they got to the aneurysm before it burst

3242
02:11:57,189 --> 02:11:55,360
it was called an unruptured aneurysm and

3243
02:11:59,830 --> 02:11:57,199
unfortunately i had suffered with this

3244
02:12:01,990 --> 02:11:59,840
aneurysm not knowing what was going on

3245
02:12:04,310 --> 02:12:02,000
being so sick i couldn't hold down water

3246
02:12:06,550 --> 02:12:04,320
for two weeks puking and

3247
02:12:08,149 --> 02:12:06,560
it was terrible finally got into a

3248
02:12:09,910 --> 02:12:08,159
hospital and they diagnosed it

3249
02:12:11,750 --> 02:12:09,920
immediately but by that time there was

3250
02:12:13,189 --> 02:12:11,760
an extensive amount of damage to my

3251
02:12:15,589 --> 02:12:13,199
optic nerve

3252
02:12:18,550 --> 02:12:15,599
where the aneurysm was

3253
02:12:20,550 --> 02:12:18,560
so that caused paralysis so basically i

3254
02:12:22,470 --> 02:12:20,560
have what most people would call a lazy

3255
02:12:23,430 --> 02:12:22,480
eye or a wonky eye

3256
02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:23,440
um

3257
02:12:28,149 --> 02:12:25,840
i'm still able to see i walked away from

3258
02:12:29,510 --> 02:12:28,159
that situation ryan evans i couldn't i

3259
02:12:30,950 --> 02:12:29,520
could have stroked out

3260
02:12:32,870 --> 02:12:30,960
i could have had an instant stroke i

3261
02:12:35,030 --> 02:12:32,880
could have died

3262
02:12:37,589 --> 02:12:35,040
very easily so

3263
02:12:40,470 --> 02:12:37,599
i consider myself still lucky it sucks

3264
02:12:42,550 --> 02:12:40,480
right i had plans to do acting and all

3265
02:12:45,030 --> 02:12:42,560
this other things and it sort of put me

3266
02:12:47,430 --> 02:12:45,040
on a different path because

3267
02:12:49,669 --> 02:12:47,440
you know that

3268
02:12:52,390 --> 02:12:49,679
cameras are uh

3269
02:12:54,069 --> 02:12:52,400
i suppose cameras are enough you know

3270
02:12:55,510 --> 02:12:54,079
like

3271
02:12:57,990 --> 02:12:55,520
what's the right way to say it it's just

3272
02:13:00,069 --> 02:12:58,000
that there's such oh the scrutiny if

3273
02:13:02,550 --> 02:13:00,079
you're going to be on film is so high

3274
02:13:04,709 --> 02:13:02,560
that having an eye looking one way

3275
02:13:05,669 --> 02:13:04,719
and not the other way the right way or

3276
02:13:07,669 --> 02:13:05,679
something

3277
02:13:09,270 --> 02:13:07,679
you know i did one project where a

3278
02:13:11,510 --> 02:13:09,280
director hired me and then they didn't

3279
02:13:13,669 --> 02:13:11,520
know about my eye and they had to do

3280
02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:13,679
some reshoots and that

3281
02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:15,280
made me say i i just don't want to do

3282
02:13:19,189 --> 02:13:17,199
this because i was embarrassed you know

3283
02:13:21,669 --> 02:13:19,199
it was like oh we have to do a reshoot

3284
02:13:23,189 --> 02:13:21,679
because your one eye is looking this way

3285
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:23,199
and your other eyes looking that way and

3286
02:13:26,709 --> 02:13:24,480
then he said why don't you tell me about

3287
02:13:29,270 --> 02:13:26,719
your eye because sometimes without the

3288
02:13:30,790 --> 02:13:29,280
glasses you can't really notice but then

3289
02:13:33,910 --> 02:13:30,800
it becomes more noticeable as i'm

3290
02:13:36,629 --> 02:13:33,920
looking around or whatever anyway i had

3291
02:13:38,790 --> 02:13:36,639
a brain aneurysm the um

3292
02:13:40,629 --> 02:13:38,800
the aneurysm was unruptured they coiled

3293
02:13:42,870 --> 02:13:40,639
it so i'm healthy they fixed the

3294
02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:42,880
aneurysm but unfortunately the nerve

3295
02:13:46,229 --> 02:13:45,119
damage caused the paralysis of one of my

3296
02:13:48,709 --> 02:13:46,239
eyes

3297
02:13:51,270 --> 02:13:48,719
which does cause double vision sometimes

3298
02:13:54,790 --> 02:13:51,280
and i drive with one eye closed i drive

3299
02:13:56,229 --> 02:13:54,800
with a weak eye closed or with a patch

3300
02:13:58,229 --> 02:13:56,239
otherwise i and then i have depth

3301
02:14:00,390 --> 02:13:58,239
perception problems but i'm walking

3302
02:14:03,830 --> 02:14:00,400
around and breathing ryan evans so i

3303
02:14:06,950 --> 02:14:05,350
yes and the sixth sense correctly

3304
02:14:08,950 --> 02:14:06,960
pointing out a brain aneurysm can cause

3305
02:14:10,149 --> 02:14:08,960
a significant impact on vision by

3306
02:14:13,669 --> 02:14:10,159
causing

3307
02:14:15,830 --> 02:14:13,679
pressure to the optic nerve in the brain

3308
02:14:17,589 --> 02:14:15,840
yeah uh yeah and somebody else

3309
02:14:19,750 --> 02:14:17,599
commenting don't let it bother you bro

3310
02:14:20,629 --> 02:14:19,760
well i don't but

3311
02:14:21,750 --> 02:14:20,639
listen

3312
02:14:24,470 --> 02:14:21,760
uh

3313
02:14:25,750 --> 02:14:24,480
as far as being on screen i realized

3314
02:14:27,589 --> 02:14:25,760
doing magic shows i could just wear

3315
02:14:30,709 --> 02:14:27,599
sunglasses or a patch and then i

3316
02:14:32,310 --> 02:14:30,719
wouldn't think about my wonky eye or

3317
02:14:33,510 --> 02:14:32,320
that it's distracting because it is

3318
02:14:35,430 --> 02:14:33,520
distracting

3319
02:14:37,669 --> 02:14:35,440
you know

3320
02:14:39,430 --> 02:14:37,679
if i didn't have these glasses on

3321
02:14:41,750 --> 02:14:39,440
sometimes my eyes would be looking in

3322
02:14:44,069 --> 02:14:41,760
two different directions and it looks

3323
02:14:45,910 --> 02:14:44,079
really wackadoo and

3324
02:14:48,709 --> 02:14:45,920
creepy and weird

3325
02:14:50,870 --> 02:14:48,719
and it's distracting from the show so

3326
02:14:53,589 --> 02:14:50,880
for that reason i chose to just i wear

3327
02:14:55,750 --> 02:14:53,599
the sunglasses nobody sees my wonky eye

3328
02:14:58,470 --> 02:14:55,760
looking one way and my good eye looking

3329
02:15:00,790 --> 02:14:58,480
the right way and and then i'm not

3330
02:15:02,870 --> 02:15:00,800
self-conscious about what's my eye doing

3331
02:15:04,870 --> 02:15:02,880
i'm not i don't have anxiety about it i

3332
02:15:06,950 --> 02:15:04,880
don't worry about it i just do the show

3333
02:15:09,189 --> 02:15:06,960
and i don't worry about my eye and

3334
02:15:11,430 --> 02:15:09,199
interestingly the sunglasses sort of

3335
02:15:12,950 --> 02:15:11,440
become a trademark after a while

3336
02:15:13,830 --> 02:15:12,960
and uh and

3337
02:15:16,629 --> 02:15:13,840
you know

3338
02:15:18,390 --> 02:15:16,639
all my avatars my profile pictures are

3339
02:15:20,069 --> 02:15:18,400
all me like this

3340
02:15:21,350 --> 02:15:20,079
and it becomes sort of a trademark

3341
02:15:23,430 --> 02:15:21,360
people

3342
02:15:25,030 --> 02:15:23,440
you know they

3343
02:15:26,550 --> 02:15:25,040
they know you as that guy in the

3344
02:15:28,390 --> 02:15:26,560
sunglasses you know once in a while i

3345
02:15:29,990 --> 02:15:28,400
get a stupid comment because somebody's

3346
02:15:32,069 --> 02:15:30,000
like why wearing sunglasses inside

3347
02:15:34,470 --> 02:15:32,079
stupid and then they feel dumb when they

3348
02:15:36,550 --> 02:15:34,480
realize that i'm handicapped

3349
02:15:38,870 --> 02:15:36,560
but it's all good right

3350
02:15:40,629 --> 02:15:38,880
yes and uh on the rise says the

3351
02:15:41,910 --> 02:15:40,639
sunglasses is part of the truth sinker's

3352
02:15:43,910 --> 02:15:41,920
image now

3353
02:15:45,270 --> 02:15:43,920
yeah and i wouldn't want to change it

3354
02:15:46,470 --> 02:15:45,280
right now

3355
02:15:48,629 --> 02:15:46,480
yeah

3356
02:15:52,550 --> 02:15:48,639
alien girl is here says

3357
02:15:54,709 --> 02:15:52,560
uh i always dig the glasses yeah me too

3358
02:15:57,270 --> 02:15:54,719
yeah plus ryan says plus the shades are

3359
02:15:59,270 --> 02:15:57,280
cool yeah so i'm glad for those i'm glad

3360
02:16:01,109 --> 02:15:59,280
you asked ryan because we have a lot of

3361
02:16:03,750 --> 02:16:01,119
new people and maybe other people wonder

3362
02:16:05,589 --> 02:16:03,760
that a lot of the long-timers here know

3363
02:16:07,270 --> 02:16:05,599
what's going on with that but

3364
02:16:08,950 --> 02:16:07,280
every once in a while

3365
02:16:10,790 --> 02:16:08,960
somebody should remind me to let

3366
02:16:13,430 --> 02:16:10,800
everybody know what the situation with

3367
02:16:14,629 --> 02:16:13,440
the glasses is especially to save people

3368
02:16:17,030 --> 02:16:14,639
from making

3369
02:16:19,270 --> 02:16:17,040
comments they may you know like

3370
02:16:22,310 --> 02:16:19,280
this idiot with sunglasses or whatever

3371
02:16:24,229 --> 02:16:22,320
you know so listen tonight friends i'm

3372
02:16:26,470 --> 02:16:24,239
very happy because we got another one of

3373
02:16:27,750 --> 02:16:26,480
these great things off my to-do list

3374
02:16:30,069 --> 02:16:27,760
people been asking me to cover the

3375
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:30,079
mothman since we started the show

3376
02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:32,800
almost two years ago now i get emails at

3377
02:16:35,509 --> 02:16:34,319
least once every couple of weeks

3378
02:16:37,669 --> 02:16:35,519
somebody says why don't you cover

3379
02:16:41,429 --> 02:16:37,679
mothman and they send me some links

3380
02:16:44,870 --> 02:16:41,439
um it's an enduring mystery that i have

3381
02:16:47,429 --> 02:16:44,880
really enjoyed covering and following

3382
02:16:48,549 --> 02:16:47,439
over the years and i hope that you enjoy

3383
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:48,559
it too

3384
02:16:52,709 --> 02:16:50,319
so what can i say friends i'm going to

3385
02:16:54,790 --> 02:16:52,719
bounce on out of here

3386
02:16:57,190 --> 02:16:54,800
always happy when there's an audience

3387
02:16:58,790 --> 02:16:57,200
and tonight we had a great one

3388
02:17:00,870 --> 02:16:58,800
i hope that you will come here tomorrow

3389
02:17:03,030 --> 02:17:00,880
night we should be broadcasting at 7 p.m

3390
02:17:07,270 --> 02:17:03,040
eastern standard time again we tried

3391
02:17:09,830 --> 02:17:07,280
this 11 o'clock but it's too late

3392
02:17:11,990 --> 02:17:09,840
the attendance is not good at that time

3393
02:17:13,589 --> 02:17:12,000
it's much better at this time and plus i

3394
02:17:15,830 --> 02:17:13,599
like to get the show over with and have

3395
02:17:17,190 --> 02:17:15,840
a few hours to wind down

3396
02:17:19,589 --> 02:17:17,200
those of you who know me well know that

3397
02:17:21,750 --> 02:17:19,599
i have terrible insomnia and if i get

3398
02:17:23,910 --> 02:17:21,760
done a show at 1am i might not be in bed

3399
02:17:27,190 --> 02:17:23,920
until 6 a.m and that's terrible or i

3400
02:17:28,549 --> 02:17:27,200
might not be sleeping until 6 or 7 a.m i

3401
02:17:29,990 --> 02:17:28,559
like a lot of people i guess i need a

3402
02:17:32,790 --> 02:17:30,000
lot of time

3403
02:17:35,030 --> 02:17:32,800
to wind down and get you know get

3404
02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:35,040
relaxed and ready for rest

3405
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:37,599
it doesn't i look i can't stand people

3406
02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:39,040
that could just jump in bed and go right

3407
02:17:43,910 --> 02:17:41,519
to sleep who are these people you know i

3408
02:17:46,309 --> 02:17:43,920
gotta fight my own brain for a few hours

3409
02:17:47,190 --> 02:17:46,319
before my brain gives up and lets me

3410
02:17:49,669 --> 02:17:47,200
rest

3411
02:17:51,589 --> 02:17:49,679
so we're gonna try to stay at 7 pm and i

3412
02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:51,599
hope that's good for you it's good for

3413
02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:52,639
me

3414
02:17:55,110 --> 02:17:53,920
like i said we had a great audience

3415
02:17:57,190 --> 02:17:55,120
tonight thank you for coming here and

3416
02:17:59,429 --> 02:17:57,200
spending some time with me always happy

3417
02:18:01,910 --> 02:17:59,439
to be here spending time with you no

3418
02:18:03,990 --> 02:18:01,920
place else i would rather be

3419
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:04,000
always happy to come here and spend some

3420
02:18:07,990 --> 02:18:06,000
time with you so what can i say friends

3421
02:18:10,230 --> 02:18:08,000
we'll be back tomorrow getting at it

3422
02:18:12,950 --> 02:18:10,240
again until next time friends my name is

3423
02:18:16,720 --> 02:18:12,960
stephen campion good night and god bless

3424
02:18:16,730 --> 02:18:56,950
[Music]

3425
02:19:35,699 --> 02:18:58,010
so

3426
02:19:37,060 --> 02:19:35,709
[Music]

3427
02:19:40,070 --> 02:19:37,070
[Applause]